An often forgotten ' Fact ' , somebody has to finish bottom every year, also only one team can win the competition

The bottom line is yes it would be nice if all clubs could have shiny stadiums with good views and clean loo's, but they dont and currently SL has 4 west Yorkshire clubs playing out of old stadiums, but they are all just about fit for purpose, even Headingly ( nice grass ) , so theyll just have to carry on as they are

Then expect to be dissapointed then, because it isnt going to change anytime soon, the same group of clubs will make the finals and the same clubs will fill the bottom places

It will change, and does change, for clubs who get their act together. It changed for Warrington, it changed for Huddersfield, and it changed for Hull.

Given that there's only 2 major competitions in which a maximum of 4 different teams can compete, is it really?

And no it's not 3 play-off appearances. It's 4 - 99, 00, 02, 09.

And as I've pointed out - only Leeds, Wigan, Warrington, Hull, Sts, Huddersfield, Catalans, Bradford, London and Sheffield have made major finals over the past 16 years of Super League.

With one of the relegations, it really shouldn't have been a relegation as we didn't finish bottom of the league. But due to the structure of the league and the exemption of one side from relegation, we were the ones who had to make way. Needless to say that same relegation was also the one where a side broke the salary cap.

Yeah I wish we were more like Huddersfield

A definate NO for me. I would rather see Cas Tigers play in NL1 than move out of Castleford. There are clubs in a worser state than both Cas and Wakey in SL at the moment.

Beg to differ Him, the stadium may be shiny with more seats and yes they have improved on the field recently but, regarding numbers of fans, you need to carefully pick your season.

2011: Cas 7156 Hudds 7091
2012: Cas 6633 Hudds 7709

Bearing in mind the "success" of Hudds, these are not exactly startling differnces.

The atmosphere at Wheldon Road is far better than tha Galpharm (John Smiths Stadium)

1 out of 3 ain't bad.

Yes

Wow
Thats ten sides clubs.

It was a relegation because you finished in a relegation spot, one which you knew about at the start of the year, you didnt make way, you were relegated. Wigan finished 3 positions ahead of you in the league table, you werent relegated because wigan broke the salary cap.

If it were, more people would attend.

Head says of course.

Financially you make an asset work.

But you can understand that fans see that as a first step towards merger.

If anything I actually think it would make that less.likely in the short term as a joint stadium a both should be better off.

But in the face of expansion and/or contraction unless both teams started operating at the top of Sl the question would always rear up unless they started to perform at the top of Sl.

No one asks Saints and Wigan to merge but then Wire and widnes were told to merge and refused and glad they didnt.

Yet there is one succesful merger in the top flight Catalan.

Whichever way it goes it has to be fan led.

Not sure about your point Smokey.
If you read my other post, I mention that Cas will never be able to fill a 15000 capacity ground.
Bearing in mind the size of the town, they do well to average 7-8000 fans most seasons.
Even if they had prolonged success, there wouldnt be a major change due to the proximity of their local rivals, so unless Wakefield and Fev ceased playing RL, Cas will not significantly improve their attendance figures.
Their attendance has more to do with the size of the town and the proximity of its local rivals than the current state of WR.
Ok, there may be a small increase in supporters in a new state of the art ground, but IMO nothing substantial, and yes, I prver a visit to WR over Hudds every day of the week.

Do only people from Cas watch Castleford? This gets trotted out all the time.

The borough of Aston has 28,000 people living in it, yet they have a 42,000 seater stadium and a football team averaging 35,000 a game.

No. Cas Tigers have support from surrounding areas like Selby, Garforth, Normanton, Pontefract, Knottingley and Kippax.