Are you talking about the league, which they HAVE dominated, or the play off final ???

i'm talking about it as a whole....when a team dominates the championship,wins it 3 or 4 times on the trot and can clearly prove they are too good and too big for the championship....move them up!


as for why i've kept london in...do you know over the 17 years of SL they've averaged a league position of 8th....never finished bottom and only finished next too bottom twice.....thats why they make my 10 team super league!

They've only won the grand final once but have finished the top of the table for the last 3 years

so??? winning the grand final is what counts......and actually only winning 1 grand final after finishing top for 3 years proves they are missing something and are'nt the dominant club some of you think they are..

Not really, it means thay aren't that good in 'one off' cup games. FYI over the past 3 seasons their league record reads, P54, W47, L5, D2, F2259, A1036.

If we're going on one off games, then maybe they should replace Cas?

champions are decided by winning the grand final.......hth

He has completely gone against his own arguement.
Fev have dominated the CC and in most other sports they would be promoted, perhaps their time will come ??
BTW, are things settling down for you at Odsal and do you think that you will be competetive next season ?

So you suggest promote the ' team ' , not the club , and the main criteria for that team is winning a one off game? , sounds like yearly promotion to me

Nice one !
You will be waiting for a long, long time to find a more dominant team than Fev in the CC.
A club winning a play off series (3 or 4 games at the end of the season, should be regarded as lucky, not dominant.
A club that finishes top of the pile 3 years on the bounce IS dominant.

Why is a club which won the qualifying comp better than the club which won the actual comp?

Yes, in this scenario Fev certainly are the strongest team in the Championship.
Top of the league 3 times on the bounce, plus one GF win and 1 runners up is still dominant.
Although the current system involving a short play off series decides the seasons champions,
finishing top of the pile is the only measure of the strongest team in any particular season.

Although we havent had a team winning the GF fro 8th, if this were to happen, you would most likely have
a club that had lost as many games as it had won regarded as to "strongest" team ?
Even Leeds finishing 5th in SL calls the playy off system into question but, WTH each to their own.

You are getting ' club ' , mixed up with ' team '

I think you are being pedantic, but hey ho.
I'm sure that a man of your stature could easily understand the point I was trying to make.
With the title of the thread, it brings the issue into clearer focus. Should we consider promoting a team that finished 4th in the league,
but won the GF ?

He's not. They are quite different. The first team is a big part of a club, but far from the entirety. It's important to understand that, particularly when thinking of franchising and P&R, where the intent is to decide P&R based on the club not the team.