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| Could be worse, we could be ARU and have a fading Int scene and a domestic comp no one is interested in watching!
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| Quote: JB Down Under "Could be worse, we could be ARU and have a fading Int scene and a domestic comp no one is interested in watching!'"
Really....a fading international scene?
135,000 attended the 3 home games in this years championship in 'stralia...that's not far of 50% of the entire attendance at the 2008 RLWC.....
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| Bumped to 10:30pm on fta, the nation was captivated lol.
Having to reduce wages, no one watching on tv, going great guns this union game. Very jealous
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| sold out stadium, fans crammed into and on top of the ground, another 10k trying to get in, not bad for two int RL invitational sides. Seems int RL may not be as dead as gutters would have us believe!
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| Quote: gutterfax "Is it?
England can't get a game v decent opposition.....Wales v France #5 v#6 in the RLIF rankings drew 1,464 fans.....The Squads for the forthcoming Australia v New Zealand test are being decimated with players opting out........the RLWC qualifiers you boast of were played in front of less than 500 people in North America, the pacific Nations cup is in danger of not going ahead, the european cup lost Italy and is now being played with two minor countries and the England B team......I am sure the sponsor was delighted BTW...
My post that you are denigrating there was in reply to the jester who alledged there were only 4 teams in the RLWC.
So, whilst your comments above might be valid and whilst in no way comparable to International RU, the fact remains that International RL is growing at an astonishing rate.
Players pulling out from International Games and prefering S o O to International selection needs rule changes in both areas. Not an insurmountable problem.
Since those WC qualifiers in North America, friendly games in Canada, who did not enter the qualifiers have drawn more than 4,000 against Jamaica and the US and they also played Lebanon. How big crowds do the Canadians RU draw. They have been playing for a long time.
Compared to the past, Serbia v Russia is an amazing fixture for RL. Germany are also playing internationals against Serbia. Malta are to or have just played Denmark. Norway have just played.
Small or not the Pacific Cup has been played. Papua New Guinea just had standing room only for their game against the Australian President's team ( 16,000 was quoted)
Wales V France was a disappointing attendance but they have had in the past a sell out at Swansea v Samoa, and been in two semi finals of the WC with 20 to 30,000 attendances. I suspect they will have decent attendances next year when a quarter final tie is on offer. Wales is a work in progress but is still alive and kicking.
Italy have a league, in fact, two leagues, and will compete in next years WC, probably with a bunch of Aussie heritage players but no different to the Italian RU team or the England team full of NZ and South African imports.
Now, compared to way back in the middle of the last century when we actually did only have four teams in our World Cup, you cannot come on here and assert that International RL has not made astonishing progress.
I have no doubt that the next RUWC will be a big affair if they can sort out their stadium problem but I am willing to bet that for entertainment on the field our version will win hands down and the RUWC will be a poor imitation.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "sold out stadium, fans crammed into and on top of the ground, another 10k trying to get in, not bad for two int RL invitational sides. Seems int RL may not be as dead as gutters would have us believe!'"
never said RL was on it's knees...I said International RL is not growing at an astonishing rate........but if you think a game in PNG selling out is a sign of massive growth, good for you.....the tickets were less than $5 a pop BTW.....
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| Fiji came fourth in the last WC and will be much stronger this time around.
In the forwards they could have all three Sims brothers, although both Tariq and Korbin might hold out for Australian selection.
They have Rick Stone as their coach and he has been working pretty hard at getting fringe players into Australian sides, with 3 players joining the Knights next season - two second rowers in the under 20s and a big prop named Simi Sawene who has played in the Newcastle local comp this year after converting from Union to be coached by Stone in reserve grade.
They have Hayne, Tuqiri, Millard, John Simon, Waqa, Kev and Wes Naiqama, Ratu Marika Koroibete, Ashton, Tariq and Korbin Sims, and I know Stone is trying to talk Petro into having a last run for Fiji next year.
1 Kev Naiqama
2 Ratu Marika Koroibete
3 Waqa
4 Wes Naiquama
5 Hayne
6 Millard
7 Simon
8 Ashton Sims
9 ????
10 Korbin Sims
11 Tariq Sims
12 Simi Sawene
13 ????
14 Petro
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| Quote: roopy "Fiji came fourth in the last WC and will be much stronger this time around.
In the forwards they could have all three Sims brothers, although both Tariq and Korbin might hold out for Australian selection.
They have Rick Stone as their coach and he has been working pretty hard at getting fringe players into Australian sides, with 3 players joining the Knights next season - two second rowers in the under 20s and a big prop named Simi Sawene who has played in the Newcastle local comp this year after converting from Union to be coached by Stone in reserve grade.
They have Hayne, Tuqiri, Millard, John Simon, Waqa, Kev and Wes Naiqama, Ratu Marika Koroibete, Ashton, Tariq and Korbin Sims, and I know Stone is trying to talk Petro into having a last run for Fiji next year.
1 Kev Naiqama
2 Ratu Marika Koroibete
3 Waqa
4 Wes Naiquama
5 Hayne
6 Millard
7 Simon
8 Ashton Sims
9 ????
10 Korbin Sims
11 Tariq Sims
12 Simi Sawene
13 ????
14 Petro'"
you can add Eloni Vunakace (Toulouse) to the list - he's a really good prop - too good for the LER but not quite SL level (yet)
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| Quote: gutterfax "never said RL was on it's knees...I said International RL is not growing at an astonishing rate........but if you think a game in PNG selling out is a sign of massive growth, good for you.....the tickets were less than $5 a pop BTW.....'"
Which based on an avg income in PNG (less than $1 a day) would equal what in the UK (90pound a day)? A lot more than a ticket to Twickers in real terms!
Int Rl is actually growing at a decent rate all things considered. Just because they are not getting 20k fans to the games doesn't mean that the Int scene isn't stronger at a grass roots and development level than ever. Int sport doesn't have to be about fully prof teams playing in front of sell out stadiums (otherwise you could say Hockey, Basketball, etc etc are dismal failures), there is probably only one sport that could lay claim to that anyway. It is about grass roots growth leading to more interest leading to an Int team competing in regular competitions at its level. In that respect int RL is actually flourishing. Where we are failing is in providing adequate funding from a centralised non vested body, providing extra support in terms of expert advice and staff when needed and in providing good strong Int calendars for teams to plan ahead.
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| Quote: roopy "Fiji came fourth in the last WC and will be much stronger this time around.
In the forwards they could have all three Sims brothers, although both Tariq and Korbin might hold out for Australian selection.
They have Rick Stone as their coach and he has been working pretty hard at getting fringe players into Australian sides, with 3 players joining the Knights next season - two second rowers in the under 20s and a big prop named Simi Sawene who has played in the Newcastle local comp this year after converting from Union to be coached by Stone in reserve grade.
They have Hayne, Tuqiri, Millard, John Simon, Waqa, Kev and Wes Naiqama, Ratu Marika Koroibete, Ashton, Tariq and Korbin Sims, and I know Stone is trying to talk Petro into having a last run for Fiji next year.
1 Kev Naiqama
2 Ratu Marika Koroibete
3 Waqa
4 Wes Naiquama
5 Hayne
6 Millard
7 Simon
8 Ashton Sims
9 ????
10 Korbin Sims
11 Tariq Sims
12 Simi Sawene
13 ????
14 Petro'"
Hayne will be in line for Oz selection, if he was in the Fijian team I doubt it will be on the Wing, In the Halves or Fullback is more likely.
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