I think the point he was trying to make is that if a player like Luke who wasn't rated particulary highly in this country (although I've always rated him) can go over there and do well a few others could.

I would throw Gareth Hock into that as well, the aussies never liked playing against him for GB and i doubt they would now either.

James Roby could play in the NRL for sure imo but a hooker isnt really a proper forward in todays game!!

MoS lost all meaning when Pat Richards won it imo, scoring 15 walk ins and 15 from kicks does not constitute a MoS award even if you are a good kicker.

He could have won back of the year because of that but definitley not MoS imo!!

So do a lot of hookers. They still don't come anywhere near Roby's stats.

On the subject of forwards that could make it in the NRL... most of them could if they have the aggression and determination. The most underrated prop in the league for me is Carvell at Wire, always seems to drive it in with great speed and power.

Westwood.

I don't remember seeing much of Tomkins for the last few months, although now I think about it he did do a lot of whining at the ref when Wire tore them a new one a few weeks back.

James Roby
Sam Tomkins
Ben Westwood

Kevin Sinfield
Rob Burrow
Danny McGuire
Ryan Hall

if you were picking a team of the most consistently excellent players over the last five years, they'd all be in it. It's nothing short of a disgrace that they've never been awarded MoS. Particularly wrong being Sinfield for Farrell in 05, and the procession of beaten St Helens players in 07/08/09.

Westwood
Roby
Lynch

Yea he's only scored 12 tries in the last 7 games lol

Flat-track matches don't tend to be televised as much.

Leeds have been a very succesful team, and Sinny has often stated that individual honours don't really matter.

Rather see Leeds win the GF all these years than a player pick up MOS.

For my money, Westwood deserves it, but it's probably written into Ratboys contract with SL & Wigan that he wins it.

But we're not, so they don't deserve to be MOS.

They are great players in part of an excellent team. But individually, none of them are the best in the league. 3 of them will struggle to get into the England squad this year.

1. Tomkins
2. Roby
3. Westwood

Roby is Mr Consistent, and consistent to a very high level.
Westwood shows great impact and determination week in week out.
But Tomkins has pretty much win games on his own at times this year. He does things that no one else can do. He is by far the best player and the biggest star in SL.

Do you mean the Saints players than finished top of the league (and therefore were the most consistent in 2007 & 2008? MoS is awarded before the GF for how well they have played over the 27 rounds so that is maybe why Leeds players dont get much of a look in! Although I am sure you will be suggesting Ryan Bailey should win it next!!

As for this season, Roby has been massive for Saints (once again) and must be in with a shout...I dread to think where we would be without him at times this year. Tomkins has the X factor, and whilst he isnt consistently good for 80 mins, he chimes into a game and does things that no other player could probably do. And agree with Westwood - he has been outstanding this year every time I have seen him. Any one of them I wouldnt argue with

In an uneven season, St’s won hubcap by a grand total of 1 point in 2007 and 1 point in 2008.

Im not sure that should have much of an effect on anything, never mind judging a players consistency.