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| Quote: Judder Man "Think the problem is that the great legend Neil Fox is always Wembley associated with missing the kick in front of the post. Where Offiah is seen as probably scoring the best solo try ever seen at Wembley.'"
And it wasn't even Neil who did that!
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "And it wasn't even Neil who did that!'"
Maybe, Don has diluted his greatness.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Maybe, Don has diluted his greatness.'"
So Neil wasn't picked because his brother (a great player by the way) missed a kick at wembley
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "Can't believe Neil Fox hasn't been picked RL and wembley legend, record points scorer. Devalues the statue for me Martin Offiah couldn't lace Neils boots.'"
Agree and feel the same applies to Leroy Rivett. Just think how many tries he would have scored in that great Wigan side.
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| Offiah should be no where near the list, he could run fast in a dominant team of the time, there's nothing THAT special about it. Put any speedster in that team and they would have done the same.
If it was to be one man only I would have been okay with Boston, however I don't even think we need a real life figure/s to represent our sport in statue form.
It would have been far less contentious to ahve two players say in a one on one tackle maybe grasping desperately around the waist of the other in full flight would have represented the sport more than adequately. I think having a plaque not just mentioning the history of the game re Wembley but also the names of all the Lance Todd winners with space for more would have set it off nicely.
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| Still can't see why Hanley wasn't included.
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| Quote: Big Ask "Still can't see why Hanley wasn't included.'"
Beat me to it, best and most feared player I've ever seen. He was a far more influential player of that era (if eras are how we're judging this, by the RFL's press statement). Plus he'd make a few folk happy when one considers where he hails from.
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| Quote: Rocky Bobby "Beat me to it, best and most feared player I've ever seen. He was a far more influential player of that era (if eras are how we're judging this, by the RFL's press statement). Plus he'd make a few folk happy when one considers where he hails from.'"
Offiah is from east of the Pennines, relatively speaking.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Offiah is seen as probably scoring the best solo try ever seen at Wembley.'"
And saving the world at the same time, surely. Why else did he put his hands over his face like that? Worst.Try.Celebration.Ever
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| OK there was some sort of a process to pick the group, but no bronze has yet been chiselled (if that's what you do), so if those who are unhappy about the choice think enough people agree with them, there is plenty of time to make representations. If 100,000 signed a petition or something - say, eg., to include Hanley, or someone from Yorkshire - I'm certain the RFL would listen. Wouldn't think there would be much support myself, but if you don't like it and think you are in the majority, don't whinge about it, do something!
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| Would have been nice to have Don Fox in there, possibly the most iconic image of a challenge cup final (especially to non RL fans) But hey ho, I'm just pleased that the sport has got a statue there at all. The RFL aren't all that incompetent after all.
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| I must admit that I am disappointed. A group should be a natural group of contemporaries - either opponents - like one tackling the other other; or team mates. I would have favoured something like Vince Karalius and Alan Prescott chairing Alex Murphy on their shoulders (if that ever happened!). If there was to be a group of great players then Neil Fox from various eras should have been in it. Offiah deserves his place -a look at the all time try scoring list shows that.
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| Quote: Dally "I must admit that I am disappointed. A group should be a natural group of contemporaries - either opponents - like one tackling the other other; or team mates. I would have favoured something like Vince Karalius and Alan Prescott chairing Alex Murphy on their shoulders (if that ever happened!). If there was to be a group of great players then Neil Fox from various eras should have been in it. Offiah deserves his place -a look at the all time try scoring list shows that.'"
Edwards or Hanley over Offiah.
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| Cannot understand why Vince Karalius was not included, because:
Wembley-wise - I think he won the cup with Saints twice; he captained Widnes to cup final victory; he coached Widnes to cup final victory in both his spells as coach. His first spells as coach set in motion golden eras, his first coming when the club was at a very low ebb.
Otherwise - his distinctive, craggy features were for many the very face of Rugby League and the personifcation of it; he was widely respected and feared in the game - especially in Australia where throughout my lifetime they have had an understanding of the game that is simply not matched here; as little more than a toddler I recall how big a deal it was when he joined Widnes from Saints and back in those days the big names of British RL that I recall were Boston, Karalius and Murphy (and probably in that order). If Alex gets his place, so should his mate Vince.
The issue is fans have recent memories as more current fans will have watched recent players than older players and so vote for those they've seen or those who they have heard about and seen on old TV footage.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Edwards or Hanley over Offiah.'"
Not sure why. Edwards was a player I really liked but if I was building a British team of that era to beat the best I could find someone who could do a solid job in place of Edwards but no one to remotely match Offiah. Pace is a key attribute in RL. Hanley - as for Edawrds.
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