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| 10 teams with a 2 million cap. First for the drop are ones who can't afford cap without financial cripple.
The best players from the four dropped go into the weaker teams left in the ten, thus making them better and more likely to challenge the big teams.
Higher cap means imports will be better quality, also increasing quality of remaining 10 teams.
Bring back promotion / relegation so the 4 teams dropped (and other lower league teams) can fight their way in (provisionally) and stay in once they get a decent backer, can spend to the cap and build a quality Super League side.
and on a final note, 10 teams would mean less games so International fixtures, Exiles matches, Lancs vs Yorks, Magic Weekends, ect... could be expanded to keep the Sky people happy.
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| Quote: Nnibly_Warrior "10 teams with a 2 million cap. First for the drop are ones who can't afford cap without financial cripple.
The best players from the four dropped go into the weaker teams left in the ten, thus making them better and more likely to challenge the big teams.
Higher cap means imports will be better quality, also increasing quality of remaining 10 teams.
Bring back promotion / relegation so the 4 teams dropped (and other lower league teams) can fight their way in (provisionally) and stay in once they get a decent backer, can spend to the cap and build a quality Super League side.
and on a final note, 10 teams would mean less games so International fixtures, Exiles matches, Lancs vs Yorks, Magic Weekends, ect... could be expanded to keep the Sky people happy.'"
So you suggest that the new SL structure is based on loss making companies with a wealthy backer chucking money down a plughole? Preposterous ide.... oh, wait.
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| He's not far off though, if he had 2 FT 10's.
Certainly need £2m cap with a £1.8m min in the top tier, £1m spend in the second.
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| Quote: Captain Library "So you suggest that the new SL structure is based on loss making companies with a wealthy backer chucking money down a plughole? Preposterous ide.... oh, wait.
I don't see how saying decent backer means to you wealthy backer. There is a difference for me. A decent backer to me is someone who runs a club well.
1.65m cap for 14 teams is 23.1m.
2m cap for 10 teams is 20m.
So over all less money would be spent, the sky money would be split up between 4 less teams, which would cover the 400,000 rise in cap.
Where is this loss making structure you mention? Because by my reckoning we are making more of a loss now than if you adopt that system.
Not to mention a higher gate take for the cubs as games would be more competitive. Wigan get an extra 8-10k supporters at the ground for the game against Warrington compared to games against London for example.
If fans knew they were not going to get a blow out they might turn up for more games. Close competitive games will attract the part time fans, and ultimately sky would love to have more competitive games on the tv, and then we could demand more money for the better product.
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| 10 Teams, top 4 Playoff.
1 vs 2 [Winner to GF, Loser to week 2]
3 vs 4 [Winner to week 2, loser eliminated]
Week Two
Loser Game One vs Winner Game two
Week Three
Grand Final [Winner week one vs Winner week two]
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| Whatever the outcome, I'd like to see more emphasis on finishing top of the league and less play-off places. Too many teams are happy to just finish in the 8 and have a play-off game to look forward to.
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| The number of teams in the playoff is nowhere near as important as the number of teams in the league. The latter dictates the former.
12 teams is balanced and worked for years. 10 teams wouldn't mean less games, it would probably mean playing everyone three times. We've already tried that and nobody liked it.
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| If the money was there for a SL grant of 1.5mill I'd go for a 14 team comp with at least two of the teams being from France (pref three)
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| Personally, I'd go with a 14 teams Super League with a 6 team play off system. But if we had to go down to 12, I'd eliminate both London (poorest team on the pitch) and Bradford (dire financial state). Having said that, neither of these two will be eliminated because the RFL still seem to think London can work, and they won't get rid of Bradford. So I can see Salford and either Wakefield or Castleford (depending on who get's their ground sorted first) being dumped into the championship, if 12 teams is a nessessity.
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| Why does it always have to be an even number? I would go with 11 or 13.
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| In the current format, 14. I guess I'm biased though as I want room for my team to be included.
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| Quote: richardviking "In the current format, 14. I guess I'm biased though as I want room for my team to be included.'"
Well, you won’t be on your own.
Supporters of the top clubs, on the whole, will want less, those at the bottom about the same & those outside more, or two leagues of ten.
Then there are the big club zealots, who’d be happy with a league of four, playing each other endlessly throughout the season ad-infinitum .
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| In my opinion and many others as well, there just isnt the talent available to sustain 14 top flite teams. Which is why I am surprised so many people have voted for a 14 team league but each to there own and as somebody stated earlier it is effectivley safeguarding your team, whoever that may be in SL.
If you take in to account playing ability, stadium quality, finances and attendances then London would drop out and also bradford (takeover depending) but the more likely teams to drop would be salford and cas to form a 12 team league!
2 leagues of 10 would be my personal choice however that would be too radical a step in such a short space of time so a 12 team league would be a good compromise.
The key to a successful SL imo is a high quality fully professional 2nd tier, so teams promoted dont take as long to adapt and relegated teams dont completely walk the championship. However this is far easier said than done and would require 10s of millions of pounds of investment.
Having our TV deal split between several broadcasters could increase revenue but i doubt this is possible. 4 televised games a week split between FTA channels, sky, espn and premier sports would be brilliant in terms of revenue and sponsorship.
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| Quote: Exeter Rhino "Why does it always have to be an even number? I would go with 11 or 13.'"
An even number of teams is required if you want to have a magic weekend
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| Quote: jarvis12345 "
If you take in to account playing ability, stadium quality, finances and attendances then London would drop out and also bradford (takeover depending) but the more likely teams to drop would be salford and cas to form a 12 team league!
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And on what basis do you form that opinion?
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