FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > How many teams do you want in SL
79 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star146No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2023Oct 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
62359_1690379119.jpg
Wigan Rugby Club, Best in all the Land [color=#FF0000:3czsb61p]Marching On to Wembley and Singing with the Band[/color:3czsb61p] At Home We Are Unbeatable, Away We are Supreme [color=#FF0000:3czsb61p]So Give Us a Cheer, The Lads are Here[/color:3czsb61p] The Wigan Rugby Team!!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62359.jpg



10 teams with a 2 million cap. First for the drop are ones who can't afford cap without financial cripple.

The best players from the four dropped go into the weaker teams left in the ten, thus making them better and more likely to challenge the big teams.

Higher cap means imports will be better quality, also increasing quality of remaining 10 teams.

Bring back promotion / relegation so the 4 teams dropped (and other lower league teams) can fight their way in (provisionally) and stay in once they get a decent backer, can spend to the cap and build a quality Super League side.

and on a final note, 10 teams would mean less games so International fixtures, Exiles matches, Lancs vs Yorks, Magic Weekends, ect... could be expanded to keep the Sky people happy.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2188No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2022Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23939_1303487603.png
[url=http://www.southwestrugbyleague.com:p1ezaz90][img:p1ezaz90]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9530/swrl.gif[/img:p1ezaz90][/url:p1ezaz90] South West Rugby League - Join us on [url=http://www.facebook.com/southwestrl:p1ezaz90]Facebook[/url:p1ezaz90] Follow us on [url=http://twitter.com/SouthWestRL:p1ezaz90]Twitter[/url:p1ezaz90] [url=http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bristol-Bid-RLWC-2013/211448588873451:p1ezaz90][b:p1ezaz90]the 2013 Rugby League World Cup is coming to BRISTOL![/b:p1ezaz90][/url:p1ezaz90]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_23939.png



Quote: Nnibly_Warrior "10 teams with a 2 million cap. First for the drop are ones who can't afford cap without financial cripple.

The best players from the four dropped go into the weaker teams left in the ten, thus making them better and more likely to challenge the big teams.

Higher cap means imports will be better quality, also increasing quality of remaining 10 teams.

Bring back promotion / relegation so the 4 teams dropped (and other lower league teams) can fight their way in (provisionally) and stay in once they get a decent backer, can spend to the cap and build a quality Super League side.

and on a final note, 10 teams would mean less games so International fixtures, Exiles matches, Lancs vs Yorks, Magic Weekends, ect... could be expanded to keep the Sky people happy.'"


So you suggest that the new SL structure is based on loss making companies with a wealthy backer chucking money down a plughole? Preposterous ide.... oh, wait. icon_surprised.gifops:

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member16601No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
cartoons/WB181.gif
:cartoons/WB181.gif



He's not far off though, if he had 2 FT 10's.
Certainly need £2m cap with a £1.8m min in the top tier, £1m spend in the second.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach689
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2019Apr 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM'' He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue] .... [quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]:



Quote: Captain Library "So you suggest that the new SL structure is based on loss making companies with a wealthy backer chucking money down a plughole? Preposterous ide.... oh, wait.
I don't see how saying decent backer means to you wealthy backer. There is a difference for me. A decent backer to me is someone who runs a club well.

1.65m cap for 14 teams is 23.1m.
2m cap for 10 teams is 20m.

So over all less money would be spent, the sky money would be split up between 4 less teams, which would cover the 400,000 rise in cap.

Where is this loss making structure you mention? Because by my reckoning we are making more of a loss now than if you adopt that system.

Not to mention a higher gate take for the cubs as games would be more competitive. Wigan get an extra 8-10k supporters at the ground for the game against Warrington compared to games against London for example.

If fans knew they were not going to get a blow out they might turn up for more games. Close competitive games will attract the part time fans, and ultimately sky would love to have more competitive games on the tv, and then we could demand more money for the better product.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2978
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022May 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35345_1422576416.jpg
Don't let your love turn to hate Now we've got to keep the faith Wigan Rugby League:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_35345.jpg



10 Teams, top 4 Playoff.

1 vs 2 [Winner to GF, Loser to week 2]
3 vs 4 [Winner to week 2, loser eliminated]

Week Two

Loser Game One vs Winner Game two

Week Three

Grand Final [Winner week one vs Winner week two]

RankPostsTeam
International Star4647
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50733_1530270912.jpg
[color=#000000:ogl9gbum]"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."[/color:ogl9gbum]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50733.jpg



Whatever the outcome, I'd like to see more emphasis on finishing top of the league and less play-off places. Too many teams are happy to just finish in the 8 and have a play-off game to look forward to.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1306
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2021Dec 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67446_1336737201.png
[b:mygo02ha]And the Geek shall inherit the Earth![/b:mygo02ha]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67446.png



The number of teams in the playoff is nowhere near as important as the number of teams in the league. The latter dictates the former.

12 teams is balanced and worked for years. 10 teams wouldn't mean less games, it would probably mean playing everyone three times. We've already tried that and nobody liked it.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach14082No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2017Feb 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9857_1341488583.jpg
WEST COAST PIRATES NRL expansion? Sometime soon, maybe......:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9857.jpg



If the money was there for a SL grant of 1.5mill I'd go for a 14 team comp with at least two of the teams being from France (pref three)

RankPostsTeam
International Star276No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2023Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Personally, I'd go with a 14 teams Super League with a 6 team play off system. But if we had to go down to 12, I'd eliminate both London (poorest team on the pitch) and Bradford (dire financial state). Having said that, neither of these two will be eliminated because the RFL still seem to think London can work, and they won't get rid of Bradford. So I can see Salford and either Wakefield or Castleford (depending on who get's their ground sorted first) being dumped into the championship, if 12 teams is a nessessity.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7361
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2074_1714824298.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_2074.jpg



Why does it always have to be an even number? I would go with 11 or 13.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8261No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Nov 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[size=100:3bcizgah][url=http://twitter.com/reallyrichkelly:3bcizgah]Follow me on Twitter...[/url:3bcizgah][/size:3bcizgah]:



In the current format, 14. I guess I'm biased though as I want room for my team to be included.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3829
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
18686.jpg
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're eating the cats! They're eating the pets!:18686.jpg



Quote: richardviking "In the current format, 14. I guess I'm biased though as I want room for my team to be included.'"


Well, you won’t be on your own.

Supporters of the top clubs, on the whole, will want less, those at the bottom about the same & those outside more, or two leagues of ten.

Then there are the big club zealots, who’d be happy with a league of four, playing each other endlessly throughout the season ad-infinitum icon_wink.gif .

RankPostsTeam
International Star488No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2012Oct 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



In my opinion and many others as well, there just isnt the talent available to sustain 14 top flite teams. Which is why I am surprised so many people have voted for a 14 team league but each to there own and as somebody stated earlier it is effectivley safeguarding your team, whoever that may be in SL.

If you take in to account playing ability, stadium quality, finances and attendances then London would drop out and also bradford (takeover depending) but the more likely teams to drop would be salford and cas to form a 12 team league!

2 leagues of 10 would be my personal choice however that would be too radical a step in such a short space of time so a 12 team league would be a good compromise.

The key to a successful SL imo is a high quality fully professional 2nd tier, so teams promoted dont take as long to adapt and relegated teams dont completely walk the championship. However this is far easier said than done and would require 10s of millions of pounds of investment.

Having our TV deal split between several broadcasters could increase revenue but i doubt this is possible. 4 televised games a week split between FTA channels, sky, espn and premier sports would be brilliant in terms of revenue and sponsorship.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner33944No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9005.jpg
kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Exeter Rhino "Why does it always have to be an even number? I would go with 11 or 13.'"


An even number of teams is required if you want to have a magic weekend

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach8487No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
12205_1307822450.png
[img:32iwt8q2]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/fullyitfc/cas-4-1.jpg[/img:32iwt8q2]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_12205.png



Quote: jarvis12345 "
If you take in to account playing ability, stadium quality, finances and attendances then London would drop out and also bradford (takeover depending) but the more likely teams to drop would be salford and cas to form a 12 team league!
'"


And on what basis do you form that opinion?

79 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
79 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.8740234375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
59m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2310
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40077
19s
Accounts
faxcar
100
21s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2310
22s
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1330
23s
Club Statement
UllFC
49
34s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62437
45s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3083
57s
Shopping list for 2025
DSJ1983
5059
58s
York City Knights home
Trojan Horse
48
1m
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
Rixy
2
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
A new low
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And Send Hull FC Bottom
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Points difference
orangeman
15
TODAY
Toulouse away
faxcar
19
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
TODAY
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
TODAY
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
TODAY
North Stand
NickyKiss
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
553
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
353
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
350
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
444
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
881
Salford Close In On The Play O..
857
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
987
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
944
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
988
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1211
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1295
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1395
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1339
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1578
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2162
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.63M 3,186 80,11914,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 19th Sep
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Fri 20th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Cronulla
v
NQL Cowboys
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
 Sat 21st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Sydney
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
15:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R24
15:00
Hunslet
v
Midlands
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
 Sat 28th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 19th Sep
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
SL
20:00
Wigan-Salford
Fri 20th Sep
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Leeds
SL
20:00
Leigh-St.Helens
SL
20:00
Warrington-LondonB
Sat 21st Sep
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Catalans
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
SL 26 St.Helens40-4Castleford
SL 26 Wigan38-0Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 26 550 483 67 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 26 415 701 -286 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
59m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2310
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40077
19s
Accounts
faxcar
100
21s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2310
22s
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1330
23s
Club Statement
UllFC
49
34s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62437
45s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3083
57s
Shopping list for 2025
DSJ1983
5059
58s
York City Knights home
Trojan Horse
48
1m
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
Rixy
2
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
A new low
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And Send Hull FC Bottom
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Points difference
orangeman
15
TODAY
Toulouse away
faxcar
19
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
TODAY
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
TODAY
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
TODAY
North Stand
NickyKiss
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
553
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
353
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
350
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
444
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
881
Salford Close In On The Play O..
857
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
987
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
944
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
988
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1211
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1295
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1395
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1339
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1578
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2162


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!