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Thought this was going to be another Stevo thread.

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Quote: Ant80 "why there isn't a Cumbria team in the Super League?'"

1996....11 Home SL games for Workington Town...average attendance 2,305.

I have no doubt the Cumbrians are all RL mad, but logistically, getting gates anywhere near the 8k needed to be self sufficient would be a hard ask....and it's 2 hrs minimum for most away fans...4hrs for Hull fans.........a Cumbrian team would have the tradition, but not the population. A combined Whitehaven/Workington team would still need 16% of their combined poplulations to attend games just to break even....

Quote: Ant80 "Now before there are howls of we let a French, London, Welsh team in.'"


Pespective wise, PSG averaged 8,026 in year 1. The folllowing year, an average of 5,509 was enough to see them disappear.......
The Cottage burners of South, then north Wales averaged 3,827 for their 39 home games in SL, but didn't have the luxury of a benefactor willing to throw money at them for the 5-10 years it would have taken for them to get their crowds up to the 8k needed....
London, after 77 name changes and 406 ground moves, have averaged 3,766 for their 218 home games in SL thus far....but have the advantages that 'london' is a weekend away destination, there are many expat northerners who will watch "their" team when they play London (Wigan, Leeds & Saints) as well as an untapped audience of Aussies/Kiwis and a benefactor willing to throw 1.5 million at the problem every year (for now anyway).

Quote: Ant80 "I'm a strong believer in expansion but this way
Interesting slide here.....from Cumbria to 'stralia and beyond?

Outside of NSW, there are 6 NRL teams....The NZ Warriors are owned by a billionaire Owen Glenn and his millionaire mate Eric Watson icon_cool.gif .....The Melbourne Storm and Brisbane Broincos are owned by the ex-50% owner of the competition and the favourite to secure the next 5 years TV rights, News Limited. The Gold Coast Titans are close to deaths door, the Raiders are currently the worst supported team in the comp and the North Queensland Cowboys had to be bailed out by News Limited (see above reference to Brisbane and Melbourne) back in 2001, or they would have gone to the wall......
Expansion should be about the sport.......but in Australia, it's all about the TV viewers. News have an interest in 50% of the teams that aren't in NSW......of the others, 2 are financial basket cases and the other represents an entire country and is owned by money.....where the new teams are placed is important financially but has little to do with "expansion" of the game.

Back to Cumbria......do you reckon SKY would increase ad revenue/subscription sales if they demanded a team in Whitehaven?

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The reason why there isn't a Cumbrian team in Super League is because hardly anybody lives there. It has the second lowest population density in the UK, has a smaller overall population than Cornwall and is also several miles away from other significant population centres that they could draw upon to form support (both from fans and corporate sponsorship). There are several US states that are hot beds of producing talent in different sports that can't sustain a professional sporting set up because of similar issues. Sad but true.

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Barrow and the Furness peninsula has a decent population. They have an amateur league in place. They have a large defense contractor for sponsorship. They had an investor but he seriously broke the salary cap rules.

If they could find another investor and get a ground share in a new stadium with the soccer club tapping into all available grants, they might have an outside shot at a SL spot. They were pushing 2,000 attendances when the wheels fell off with their investor and they are by far and away the best supported club in CC1 and better than half of CC.

I agree that the West Cubria duo are too small, too poor and too divided to become a SL franchise.

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Oh look another Cumbria club for SL thread , started by a SL club fan, who knows nothing about the clubs ir the general makeup of Cumbria

The only way a SL club would get to SL would be via P and R

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Quote: McClennan "The reason why there isn't a Cumbrian team in Super League is because hardly anybody lives there. It has the second lowest population density in the UK, has a smaller overall population than Cornwall and is also several miles away from other significant population centres that they could draw upon to form support (both from fans and corporate sponsorship). There are several US states that are hot beds of producing talent in different sports that can't sustain a professional sporting set up because of similar issues. Sad but true.'"


Its simply not true that hardly anyone lives there. Cumbria as a county is not far short of a population of half a million people. As you have alluded to, the population density and spread is one of the real issues as its the transport logistics of the county in terms of getting from A to B.

(Barrow in Furness alone has a bigger population than Castleford, a similar population to that of Widnes and just a tad smaller than Wakefield.)


Under Promotion and Relegation Barrow would have been promoted to SL in 2009.

If Barrow could get Craven Park upgraded and attract more supporters then they would have a chance. Realistically though they are the only town with a big enough population to draw on to financially sustain a SL team.

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why would any of the cumbrian clubs want to go into super league ? It's so flawed in so many ways (finances etc.), it could kill thier clubs. I would rather Halifax stay in the championship until super league is sorted out and if that's never then that's fine by me

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Just read over on a French forum that Bernard Guash seems to think Super league is expanding to 16 teams. Which seems unlikely and goes against what most people seems to think should happen i.e a reduction in teams.

translate.google.com.au/translat ... CFoQ7gEwAA

Last paragraph of the interview.

Edit: In the Catalans section under the heading "we can be proud of what we offer."
Just read over on a French forum that Bernard Guash seems to think Super league is expanding to 16 teams. Which seems unlikely and goes against what most people seems to think should happen i.e a reduction in teams.

translate.google.com.au/translat ... CFoQ7gEwAA

Last paragraph of the interview.

Edit: In the Catalans section under the heading "we can be proud of what we offer."


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