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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Hopie "The thread title is correct, Championship clubs should have an opportunity to play their way into the Super League, the result today didn't change anything regarding that'" The thread title is not correct at all. Championship teams should not be in Super League. Super League teams should be in Super League. Not all the clubs currently in Super League are Super League clubs, but that doesn't mean we should be letting more sub-standard clubs in. |
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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: headhunter "The thread title is not correct at all. Championship teams should not be in Super League. Super League teams should be in Super League. Not all the clubs currently in Super League are Super League clubs, but that doesn't mean we should be letting more sub-standard clubs in.'"
If it's OK to let "sub-standard" clubs in then all sub-standard clubs should have the same opportunity. Clubs that meet the minimum criteria should all have their chance and those criteria should be fair and realistic.
I would cut Super league but whilst it is at 14 then other teams deserve the chance to play their way in, every year!
Either don't let any in or let them all have the same chance, teams at the bottom of Super league are the same as those at the top of the championship just with years of super league millions to fall back on. |
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Just think how exciting it would have been today if there was unlimited tackles, three points for a try, two extra forwards, line outs...
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Some seem to ignoring reality. Teams can play their way into superleague, they just need to have a quality all round package to back it up once they have WON SOMETHING TO QUALIFY FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
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| Quote: Hopie "If it's OK to let "sub-standard" clubs in then all sub-standard clubs should have the same opportunity. Clubs that meet the minimum criteria should all have their chance and those criteria should be fair and realistic.
I would cut Super league but whilst it is at 14 then other teams deserve the chance to play their way in, every year!
Either don't let any in or let them all have the same chance, teams at the bottom of Super league are the same as those at the top of the championship just with years of super league millions to fall back on.'"
Yes, and those super league millions are supposed to be used to improve those clubs (which is different from teams) at the bottom of SL.
Your argument seems to be that if we cant offer the space for everybody to improve, all at once, we shouldnt offer the space to anybody ever. Which seems quite silly.
Yes there are some clubs in SL who need to improve, relegating them isnt going to do that. |
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“You are playing a game of football this afternoon but more than that you are playing for England, and more even than that, you are playing for right versus wrong. You will win because you have to win. Don’t forget that message from home. England expects every one of you to do his duty.”:1230.gif |
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| Quote: McClennan "Just think how exciting it would have been today if there was unlimited tackles, three points for a try, two extra forwards, line outs...'"
Good change is good, bad change is bad
Quote: McClennan "Quote: McClennan "If it's OK to let "sub-standard" clubs in then all sub-standard clubs should have the same opportunity. Clubs that meet the minimum criteria should all have their chance and those criteria should be fair and realistic.
I would cut Super league but whilst it is at 14 then other teams deserve the chance to play their way in, every year!
Either don't let any in or let them all have the same chance, teams at the bottom of Super league are the same as those at the top of the championship just with years of super league millions to fall back on.'"
Yes, and those super league millions are supposed to be used to improve those clubs (which is different from teams) at the bottom of SL.
Your argument seems to be that if we cant offer the space for everybody to improve, all at once, we shouldnt offer the space to anybody ever. Which seems quite silly.
Yes there are some clubs in SL who need to improve, relegating them isnt going to do that.'"
Thanks for telling me what my argument is, shall we have a quotespam war now?
The current system has no stick, failing clubs aren't relegated. They are guaranteed a place as they would go bust without super league money, some of them manage it with the money! |
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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Hopie "Good change is good, bad change is bad
Thanks for telling me what my argument is, shall we have a quotespam war now?
The current system has no stick, failing clubs aren't relegated. They are guaranteed a place as they would go bust without super league money, some of them manage it with the money!'" Which 'failing clubs' haven't been relegated, that would have been relegated under a system of automatic P&R? |
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| Quote: headhunter "Which 'failing clubs' haven't been relegated, that would have been relegated under a system of automatic P&R?'"
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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg |
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| Quote: Hopie "Troll detected'" Celtic Crusaders finished bottom in 2009 but made the play-offs the next season, as did Castleford in 2008 and Catalans in 2010. That doesn't exactly fit with your argument. |
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| Quote: Mr Hicks "Egg on the face of rugby league chiefs
Fev v Cas a classic example why teams from the championship should be aloud into super league.
Nothing between bottom of super league and top championship clubs, and if given the money super league clubs recieve who knows what they could acheive.'"
Not really, look at the attendance today. Fev's biggest game for years and not enough there to fund anything other than a sneaky win against us at Belle Vue. |
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| Quote: headhunter "The thread title is not correct at all. Championship teams should not be in Super League. Super League teams should be in Super League. Not all the clubs currently in Super League are Super League clubs, but that doesn't mean we should be letting more sub-standard clubs in.'"
Spot on!! Absolutely spot on. |
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| Quote: Hopie "The current system has no stick, failing clubs aren't relegated. They are guaranteed a place as they would go bust without super league money, some of them manage it with the money!'"
Simply not true. One 'failing' club would have been relegated in this round of franchises if Crusaders hadn't imploded. |
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The current system has no stick, failing clubs aren't relegated. They are guaranteed a place as they would go bust without super league money, some of them manage it with the money!'"
The current system has been in place for 3 years. Which clubs currently in Super League should have been relegated? Why? Replaced by which clubs and why? |
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There are a number of clubs trying their hardest to meet Super League criteria in the Championship.
A lot on here seem threatened by clubs showing ambition, which is a sad state, if you meet Super League criteria, you should be in, no replacing.
(Yes I know the pitfalls)
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