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| Quote: DropGoalGiant "Have you seen the England squad? It's not all white. Then you have the likes of Ellis who's more than capable playing regulary down in Australia.'"
Are you mad? You keep responding with posts that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. What does Ellis have do with africans, polynesians and australia indigenous being better suited to league than caucasians? What does caucasian league players being better than black british players have to do with black britons being better suited to league than caucasians?
you keep mentioning things that don't even matter. all of your posts are off topic.
you seem to be of the belief that i've said all black people are inherently better than all white people
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "So, our national RL team will get laughed at because there's too many White men in it ? how many black men should be an acceptable number to be taken seriously then ?
there isn't enough Eastern Europeans playing RL either even though there's plenty of them living in and around RL strongholds is that also a problem ?'"
It's not about having a set number of black players, it's about having a good enough team. There IS a reason that the NRL is only just over 60% white right now, and there's a reason in 20 years that white people in the NRL will be maybe 40% of the competition. And that reason is because the polynesians and indigenous down there are better suited genetically to the game
just like west africans are better suited to the game. And if in 20 years our team is the same demographic as we are now, the facts would suggest we're going to get smashed.
what do Eastern Europeans have to do with anything, are they better athletes than white britons?
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| Quote: r a n c i d "At the same time though i do think it a shame that many great black athletes aren't playing or aware of league
maybe i should have taken more time wording my posts'"
Yes you should.
If you'd have posted the above paragraph first, you may have received a more measured response and it could have lead to an interesting debate about why RL isn't attracting more black and minority ethnic youngsters at youth and amateur level. As it is, you've been fairly criticised for suggesting that the game should only be interested in a certain race of people, due to your skewed perception that they are genetically predisposed to be superior athletes.
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| TBH your posts are sounding a bit that way......ie why arent blacks more prominent in RL cos they are better athletes, and the national team is a laughing stock cos there is not enough black players in it etc etc ....surely you can see why its been translated that way !!
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| Quote: bren2k "Yes you should.
If you'd have posted the above paragraph first, you may have received a more measured response and it could have lead to an interesting debate about why RL isn't attracting more black and minority ethnic youngsters at youth and amateur level. As it is, you've been fairly criticised for suggesting that the game should only be interested in a certain race of people, due to your skewed perception that they are genetically predisposed to be superior athletes.'"
I thought my initial post explained well enough, if not then people could have asked me to elaborate rather than calling me a fool.
And my perception is not skewed, west africans are superior league athletes.
Please don't put words in my mouth, I haven't said the game should be interested in only anyone, I've said until we get black people playing the game a, we aren't going to be taken seriously and b, the game is going to be 2nd tier and we're going to lose more and more to Aus and NZ
the facts are there. the only thing taht seems to be controversial is that a lot of insular white members on here can't accept that africans and polynesians are better fit for the game athletically
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| I brought up Ellis because he plays for england! You said how are we ever going to compete if we play all white players against Australia. I was just saying Ellis is more than a match against the Aussies as proven on regular basis so why can't other white players do the same.
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| Quote: "until we get black people playing the game a, we aren't going to be taken seriously and b, the game is going to be 2nd tier and we're going to lose more and more to Aus and NZ'"
Why not just make white people into better athletes ?? it works both ways , your saying that RL HAS to get more black people involved or it cannot be taken seriously, so why not jsut make the white people playing the game into better players to compete ? why does it HAVE to be that black people are the only people that can ever improve our game ?
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "TBH your posts are sounding a bit that way......ie why arent blacks more prominent in RL cos they are better athletes, and the national team is a laughing stock cos there is not enough black players in it etc etc ....surely you can see why its been translated that way !!'"
But my posts don't need translating mate, they are what they are, if somebody wants to find deeper meaning that's their or your prerogative.
My view is that the best athletes in the country aren't playing or don't know about league. How's that a controversy or me being a fool?
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| Quote: DropGoalGiant "I brought up Ellis because he plays for england! You said we don't have a chance if we play all white players against Australia. I was just saying Ellis is more than a match against the Aussies as proven on regular basis so why can't other white players do the same.'"
Ellis is one man and he's a forward, i'm not talking about forwards, we have the forwards covered
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "Why not just make white people into better athletes ?? it works both ways , your saying that RL HAS to get more black people involved or it cannot be taken seriously, so why not jsut make the white people playing the game into better players to compete ? why does it HAVE to be that black people are the only people that can ever improve our game ?'"
because you can't make people into better athletes. athleticism can be improved on, but it's something you're born with. Africans and polynesians are born with more
I'm not making this up or crazy, the facts show i'm right. already black people in the north have disproportionate representation in league because they're better athletes, and the same is true in australia/nz with indigenous/polynesian people
why can't we make white women have bigger bums? sure we can give them cake to eat, but it doesn't really work the same does it
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| Quote: r a n c i d ""Thousands"... in an area that holds 8 million, am I supposed to be impressed?
You are aware that more Juniors are playing Rugby League in London than in any other area of the country, aren't you?
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| Quote: r a n c i d "Please don't put words in my mouth, I haven't said the game should be interested in only anyone, I've said until we get black people playing the game a, we aren't going to be taken seriously and b, the game is going to be 2nd tier and we're going to lose more and more to Aus and NZ'"
You did - in an earlier post for example, you said you weren't interested in attracting more Asian people to the game, because they had nothing to add in terms of athleticism.
Quote: r a n c i d "the facts are there'"
I'm not sure they are - there are a lot of opinions however, some that don't agree with yours.
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| Tomkins, charnley, brough, widdop, Robinson, graham, Roby?? To name a few more than capable!
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| i think you ought to take this secret evidence of possible world RL domination to Red Hall mate, i'm sure if you explain what you have to us on here they will surely have to take on board your facts and go out of their way to get more black people involved in RL so we dont become this laughing stock !!
i hear what your saying but i think your trying to push your message across rather forceably therefore making people think you have some form of agenda or issue here...
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "i think you ought to take this secret evidence of possible world RL domination to Red Hall mate, i'm sure if you explain what you have to us on here they will surely have to take on board your facts and go out of their way to get more black people involved in RL so we dont become this laughing stock !!
i hear what your saying but i think your trying to push your message across rather forceably therefore making people think you have some form of agenda or issue here...'"
Agreed, can see what your saying but to say that a white England team isn't capable to beat the Aussies is a harsh
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