What was the difference in that and the Morley hit on Hansen in 2010?

That is not what the sin bin is for.

I'd go with this. Intent - or lack thereof - can't be the decider. Rinaldi was knocked clean out - that was a big, bad hit.

Raises the question of allowing shoulder charges at all.

The sin bin is for anything the referee chooses to use it for.

I'm getting so 'with it' these days that I want to 'like' that post.

Agree, intent isn't the be all and end all. Was a reckless shot, hitting him in the face and knocking him out.
Right decision for me

Shoulder charges are not illegal in RL. Whether they should be or not is another matter, but all talk of an illegal tackle is incorrect. It was a perfectly valid tackle within the rules as they exist now.

I'm going to watch the replay again before making a final judgement, but my view of it at the time was that the initial contact was on the shoulder/body. In that case a red card is not justified. If the initial contact [iwas[/i on the head then it's a different ball game, but I'll look forward to every single high tackle resulting in a red card from now on.

Intent is [ialways[/i taken into account. That's why not every high tackle is a red card, for example.

I'm looking at it now. Rinaldi is stooping into the challenge. If he'd been even a bit closer to upright Moa would have hit him square in the chest. As it happens, Rinaldi's body angle makes it so that Moa connects on upper chest and chin.

It looks a lot worse than any other high tackle that a player is falling into because of the impact involved. To me, Moa hasn't 'attacked the head', he's gone for a (legal) bit hit that hasn't worked out because of other factors.

Gentle spot on for me. I'm not sure if Sam Moa has Tommy Lee's mobile number but he needs to give him his red card back.

I wonder what Barry and Terry would have made of the shoulder charge.

On first viewing, a red card was harsh. On second viewing, I agree with Mr Sliverwood. Tommy Lee should have been sent off yesterday aswell. No doubt about that one.

Interesting to read a few Leeds fans with views like above after they all defended Ryan Bailey when he put his shoulder in Maurie Fa'asavalus face the other year "because he led with the shoulder and therefore it's unintentional and legal"

Technically, the official was right to send Moa off as he did make contact with Rinaldi's head, although it wasn't intentional it is a sending off offense...

However, with some of the tackles that are made every week in SL that are worse than Moa's I think he has possibly been unlucky to see red for that and think referees need to be more consistent across the board with their punishment for certain offenses

It's rugby league FFS, not synchronised swimming.

Should a team get extra points for attractive tackles?

Attacking the head is an offence, hitting the head isn't.

Moa will get found not guilty.

If he is found anything else, including SoS, I would hope the Hull club lodges an appeal and cites the numerous incidents that Morley has been placed on report for over the last four seasons as mitigation.

It may not be attractive but unlike rugby union, it is not illegal to effect a tackle with the shoulder. Phil Clarke called it spot on tonight.