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Quote: SmokeyTA "Is this a common problem you have? I've just never heard of people slipping in toilets unless there is someone bent over talking in to is.'"


Well done, classic smokey!

Trying to be smart but typing meaningless drivel! Can you manage English and sentences or are you just fluent in nonsense?

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Nice to see you sticking up for your little mini me chum though smokey. You make a lovely couple!


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Quote: Starbug "So you agree, it is all about money , and why would it be limited? ,if they had the money, they could achieve whatever they wanted, but you are correct , why would anybody invest in a club that cannot be promoted?'"
Why are you still unable to differentiate between having a good on-field team and being a strong club? If a billionaire invested in Featherstone and bought the best players and coaches, sorted out the infrastructure and virtually made them a model club, then the benefit to the game wouldn't be as much as if, for example, the billionaire had done the same thing at a club like Salford with a far bigger untapped catchment area. If Featherstone won Super League they would still not be a particularly big club, the area is already saturated with RL, there is very little potential for growth and honestly they probably do well to be as big as they currently are. And the whole argument is completely irrelevant because there is virtually no chance of this happening. Not because they 'can't be promoted' ( icon_confused.gif ), but because Featherstone is not the type of club or town that is going to attract investment, for obvious reasons.

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I understand Headhunters' valid point.

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Quote: headhunter "
What would constitute 'respect' to you, other than unconditionally giving disproportionate amounts of money to undeserving clubs?'"


Somewhere between what they have done ( which consists of gimmicks like the NRC 9 s, Toulouses inclusion with different rules, and a non paying midweek TV deal ) and what you suggest, but essentially looking at where clubs actually need help and using money to achieve that help, but not giving it to hotels and airlines

We need the fans of our towns wanting to attend matches at our stadiums, not to attend SL games, or to attend SL GFs and Internationals , it is strange that never having bought a SL ticket via the interet but having bought Interational tikets from the RFL, i now find myself on SL club databases

Most if not all non SL clubs will have little money or expertise to spend on marketing it is there where money could be spent, so no, dont blindly give Championship clubs money, but spend it ON them where it will most benifit them

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Quote: littlerich "What areas are these?'"


I think the point he's making is that that, because the game is so strongly based in the heartlands that there's a great deal of overlap with a lot of clubs. Most championship clubs have at least one if not more than one SL neighbour and that is going to take away from those championship clubs.

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Quote: headhunter "Why are you still unable to differentiate between having a good on-field team and being a strong club? If a billionaire invested in Featherstone and bought the best players and coaches, sorted out the infrastructure and virtually made them a model club, then the benefit to the game wouldn't be as much as if, for example, the billionaire had done the same thing at a club like Salford with a far bigger untapped catchment area. If Featherstone won Super League they would still not be a particularly big club, the area is already saturated with RL, there is very little potential for growth and honestly they probably do well to be as big as they currently are. And the whole argument is completely irrelevant because there is virtually no chance of this happening. Not because they 'can't be promoted' (
So basically you are suggesting that only people and investors from Featherstone will watch or invest in Featherstone, well it doesnt neccessarily work like that, does it? , with enough money any club could build as big a fan base as they want, given success paid for by a rich benefactor, however THE biggest problem to investement outside SL is the glass ceiling system we currently have

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Quote: Roofaldo "
I think the point he's making is that that, because the game is so strongly based in the heartlands that there's a great deal of overlap with a lot of clubs. Most championship clubs have at least one if not more than one SL neighbour and that is going to take away from those championship clubs.'"


Yep - I get where he's coming from now.

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Quote: littlerich "Yep - I get where he's coming from now.'"


Me too rich, especially when SL clubs get access to my e mail address despite me never having contacted them via the internet, but i have contacted the RFL to purchase International tickets

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Quote: Starbug "So basically you are suggesting that only people and investors from Featherstone will watch or invest in Featherstone, well it doesnt neccessarily work like that, does it? , with enough money any club could build as big a fan base as they want, given success paid for by a rich benefactor, however THE biggest problem to investement outside SL is the glass ceiling system we currently have'"
No, it's the fact that the vast majority of the clubs are based in small, no-name towns with intense local competition from much bigger, more affluent places and very little potential for growth. Unless they were from the area, I can't really envisage a situation where anyone with any sort of money would ever want to spend any time, let alone invest in somewhere like Leigh or Featherstone. The likelihood is that the vast, vast majority of people in the country, particularly wealthy people, will have never heard of those places and have no idea where they are. Regardless of the fact that the licensing system is far more appealing to investors, to suggest that something like that is the biggest obstacle to investment for those clubs is absolutely ridiculous.

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Quote: headhunter "No, it's the fact that the vast majority of the clubs are based in small, no-name towns with intense local competition from much bigger, more affluent places and very little potential for growth. Unless they were from the area, I can't really envisage a situation where anyone with any sort of money would ever want to spend any time, let alone invest in somewhere like Leigh or Featherstone. The likelihood is that the vast, vast majority of people in the country, particularly wealthy people, will have never heard of those places and have no idea where they are. Regardless of the fact that the licensing system is far more appealing to investors, to suggest that something like that is the biggest obstacle to investment for those clubs is absolutely ridiculous.'"


Wether you see it likely is irrelivant , it could happen , and the lack of guaranteed promotion is a huge obstacle to investement wether you think it is or isn't

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Rugby is and always wil be a minority sport, but is still an enjoyable sport

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Quote: Starbug "Wether you see it likely is irrelivant , it could happen , and the lack of guaranteed promotion is a huge obstacle to investement wether you think it is or isn't'"



That's rubbish and you know it! If a rich backer came in and spent big on any championship club, bought them a squad and coach, bought them a jnr set up, bought them a stadium, discounted tickets to get 3,000 through the gate etc etc then they would be guaranteed promotion. As you well know the likes of Featherstone, Leigh or Halifax attracting a multimillioanire backer willing to pump in the milion pound a year they would need to acheive this is very unlikely.

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Quote: JB Down Under "That's rubbish and you know it! If a rich backer came in and spent big on any championship club, bought them a squad and coach, bought them a jnr set up, bought them a stadium, discounted tickets to get 3,000 through the gate etc etc then they would be guaranteed promotion. As you well know the likes of Featherstone, Leigh or Halifax attracting a multimillioanire backer willing to pump in the milion pound a year they would need to acheive this is very unlikely.'"


Unlikely ? , yes, impossible ? , no, but HKR did something very similar, but much less likely now, would Mr Hudgell be willing to bankroll Rovers for 3/6/9 years to achieve SL status if they were still a Championship club now?

This thread was about investement and expansion, unfortunatley now, one only goes with the other, if you arent an expansion club you wont get any investement, and the investement needed for an expansion club is much more than what would be needed for a non expansion club, so less likely

So will we see investement and expansion? , No

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Quote: JB Down Under "That's rubbish and you know it! If a rich backer came in and spent big on any championship club, bought them a squad and coach, bought them a jnr set up, bought them a stadium, discounted tickets to get 3,000 through the gate etc etc then they would be guaranteed promotion. As you well know the likes of Featherstone, Leigh or Halifax attracting a multimillioanire backer willing to pump in the milion pound a year they would need to acheive this is very unlikely.'"

yes I agree it is not likely to happen but it would be great if it did look at the advert for the game if it did some rich nut with plenty of money bought a small team the papers would be full of it still we can dream icon_biggrin.gifROOL: icon_biggrin.gifROOL:

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