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| The good news is he can play for England within a couple of years if he's any good. Then Wigan can get an exemption for him as well.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Seems the reasons behind their desperation to have the cap increased are becoming clear now
Apart from, he's not playing in the NRL he plays for a Toyota Cup team called the Vulcans. Keep trying Saddo, poor, poor effort.
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| I'd love to know how Wigan are "abusing the new cap rules" full stop. There's a free quota spot and room under the cap. A 20-year old Toyota Cup player won't be on a massive wedge!
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| Quote: Saddened! "The good news is he can play for England within a couple of years if he's any good. Then Wigan can get an exemption for him as well.'"
You really are obsessed. If you look at the players we have lost and look who we have brought in its no wonder we could fit it all in even with Sams increase in salary.
Hoffman, Coley, JTomkins and Deacon will all have been within our top earners, not forgetting a certain Martin Gleeson who will also have been part of this group.
Then bringing in 3 players from Crusaders and then a centre who plays in the Toyota Cup or something along them lines.
I think you should concentrate on your team and the how excited youll be at playing Paul Wellens at full back all season again.
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| Quote: 21-12 "Apart from, he's not playing in the NRL he plays for a Toyota Cup team called the Vulcans. Keep trying Saddo, poor, poor effort.'"
If you knew anything about rugby league you would know the Vulcans are the New Zealand Warriors 3rd grade side.
New Zealand Warriors (First grade)
Junior Warriors (Toyota Cup)
Auckland Vulcans (New South Wales Cup)
They are an official feeder club and are comprised of development juniors and players not deemed worthy of a place in the NRL club squad system.
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| If he'd been from the North West, It would be regarded as a triumph of scouting for young talent, on a low contract, low risk but high reward.
As he's from the Southern Hemisphere, he must be an average at best criminal who's on 48 Million a year, of which only £3.50 counts on the cap.
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| How does anyone know he is on a low wage?
I wouldn't move to another country that is expensive to live for the sort of money people are quoting on here.
Really surprised if he gets a Visa with his lack of first team appearances, unless he has an EU passport.
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| Quote: Saddened! "If you knew anything about rugby league you would know the Vulcans are the New Zealand Warriors 3rd grade side.
New Zealand Warriors (First grade)
Junior Warriors (Toyota Cup)
Auckland Vulcans (New South Wales Cup)
They are an official feeder club and are comprised of development juniors and players not deemed worthy of a place in the NRL club squad system.'"
So we needed to up the cap to sign an NRL centre but now your syaing he's a NSW Cup centre???
Oh dear, I can just imagine your Wigan shirt with Saddo wrote on the back. We all know your a Wigan fan you just dont want to admit it
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| Quote: Dave K. "How does anyone know he is on a low wage?
I wouldn't move to another country that is expensive to live for the sort of money people are quoting on here.
Really surprised if he gets a Visa with his lack of first team appearances, unless he has an EU passport.'"
Well he'd be getting more than he's currently on at Auckland Vulcans obviously
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| Quote: dirtbag83 "Well he'd be getting more than he's currently on at Auckland Vulcans obviously'"
How much is he on there?
Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.
Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.
Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.
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| I'm sure that the salary cap was changed solely at the insistence of Wigan, who cohersed the RFL into changing it for Wigan's benefit, by misleading them that it was to retain ST, and that the other clubs had no knowledge of it.
I just can't find the link to these facts. Maybe Saddened could help?
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| Quote: Dave K. "How much is he on there?
Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.
Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.
Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.'"
Although I've never seen him play so I can't comment on his ability he won't have been picked up by the Roosters if he didn't have something about him and he's only just turned 21. This is still all rumours anyway. Nothing official about Gelling from the club yet
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| Quote: Dave K. "How much is he on there?
Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.
Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.
Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.'"
We see these sorts of comments every year.
We signed deacon and only deacon 2 years ago, everyone was saying how his best days where at bradford. It turned out as a master stroke as he guided us to grand final and challenge cup success.
Prior to this we signed George Carmont similar time to Warrington signing King, everyone was saying warrington had got one over wigan and wigan where in decline! 4 Years on and hes one if not the best centres in super league.
At the end of the day centres are few and far between in the UK so we where bound to look overseas whilst the development of our own centres continues for next year when Carmont retires.
Brisbane took a punt last year on a lad called Jack Reed! Look how hes developed this year.
Leave Wigans recruitment to wigan and let's see whoose smiling at the end of the year, with good depth in the forwards with the signings of Lauaki, Dudson and Flower (2 YOUNG talents) and also now a 3rd on the way in Gelling we're clearly thinking outside the box a bit and looking for depth.
Wigans line up potentially next year could be
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Anthony Gelling
4. George Carmont
5. Pat Richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Tommy Leuluai
8. Lee Mossop
9. Mike McIllorum
10. Jeff Lima
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Liam Farrell
13. Sean O'Loughlin
14. Paul Prescott
15. Stuart Fielden
16. Gareth Hock
17. Joe Mellor
You will not hear this wigan fan complaining to see that line up! considering we've got players such as Gil Dudson, Ben Flower, Lauaki, Chris Tuson, Dom Crosby, Darrell Goulding, Stefan Marsh, Amos Roberts, Ryan King, Matty Russell all waiting in reserve for their shot!
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| Quote: Dave K. "How much is he on there?
Maybe he has to give up a decent job to come over, nobody knows how much he is on.
Very disappointing signing from Wigan signing a 3rd grade overseas player.
Strange recruitment by Wane so far at Wigan.'"
Not being funny but this is coming from someone whos club has signed Brett Seymour, a guy who was sacked off from the Sharks from drunken antics and has been less than average at the Warriors making juist 22 appearances in 2 seasons, and again got into trouble over drunken antics.
Oh yea and has been playing along side him at the Vulcans this year. At least this guy is young and has potential to improve and become a decent player, whereas Seymour will always be a 2nd/3rd grade player. Add in Tony Martin and Martin Aspinwall, and I would be more concerned at your own strange signings. At least we are looking at signing young players with potential insted of proven journymen.
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