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| Are we talking about the same England, the one that got beat by a bunch of overseas has beens and never will be's on home soil ?
Cloud cookoo land...
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| As always with England we may compete with them in the forwards but we can never compete in the backs. Our halves will never compete against the Aussies IMO.
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| Quote: Salford red all over "Are we talking about the same England, the one that got beat by a bunch of overseas has beens and never will be's on home soil ?
Cloud cookoo land...
Not quite the same team. We are adding Roby, Chase, Heightington, Widdop, Ellis, Reed and Brough to it.
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| FYI Reed was selected in Big League Week (I think) as one of the top two centres in the NRL this year.
Australia look strong enough in most areas, but if Inglis is unfit they look a bit weak in the centres (still good players but not the very best). Having said that, I doubt we'll beat them. What I want to see is us being competitive for a full 80 minutes, not hanging in there for 60 minutes then falling apart.
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| Quote: Jonesy "Looking at how many players from Australia and NZ that are injured or electing for off season surgery, this may be the year.'"
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I don't think so, Australia to beat the Kiwis in the final by a few.
I wouldn't mind if England won either as long as its a good game and the best team on the day wins.
Its only a game at the end of the day, this should be England's best chance in ages.
Locky is a shadow of himself, weak in the Centres, big chance for England but somehow I doubt they will take it, they crap themselves in the big games and when defences don't just open up they run out of ideas.
In the last couple of years the thing that always seems noticeable about England's game is..
Really poor kicking game.
Poor team selections with players out of their usual positions.
Inability to read attacking moves and defend against simple plays.
Last but not least, really poor general skills whether that is passing in either direction or even catching the ball, some games has seen mistakes that School kids would not make.
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| Quote: Jonesy "I wouldn't mind if England won either as long as its a good game and the best team on the day wins.'"
Good on ya Jonesy
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| Gutted that Shaun Johnson is out. Was looking forward to seeing him!!
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| also matai & Vatuvai now too for NZ and inglis,dave taylor (for the newcastle test) & brett stewart (tour) for australia
don't buy into the myth the the kiwis now have loads of depth.....this squad is now akin to the 2007 that got hammered 3-0
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| Not a bad result for Australia that both the Stewarts are out.
It brings in a Second Rower that is as good at centre (Scott) and a dedicated Centre in Tonga.
Better balance all round.
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| The way its going its opening up for England to beat depleted squads....
England has face bum teams from Australia before, was it 2003?
Still found a way to lose.
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RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| all we've heard about the kiwis in the past few weeks,due to them getting into 3 club finals,is that they have "real depth now"....haha what a crock of crap
and the aussies could field a NSW cup team that would beat england and have dozens of world class ...lol yeah right your gonna struggle to put out a side at this rate
and it's nice to see a aussie admit we LOST the 2003 series and you did'nt win it...
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| Matai and Vatuvei especially will be a loss to NZ.
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14417.gif OLDHAM RLFC
RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP
WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57
Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55
FIRST DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1904-05
RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP
WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927
Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926
LANCASHIRE CUP
WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58
Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58
LANCASHIRE LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58
Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55
SECOND DIVISION
CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88
SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP
WINNERS: 1988, 1990
Runners Up: 1992
NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP
Runners up : 2001
NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1
Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif |
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| Quote: Jonesy "Its both Spud.
It was GB's chance to win and they couldn't against players the quality of Richard Villasanti and Phil Bailey in the centres.
villasanti never played and phil bailey played 1 game hth
the rest of the aussie team was packed full of origin players, the aussie squad was never as bad as it's often portrayed
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