As you say hardly Oz or Kiwi squad, only one or two may get a look in in the Kiwi test squad.

I’m not saying it excludes SL players from been world class, it’s just that they can’t be labelled as that until they have proved it on the big stage. I agree we do have a few players that have the potential to be world class but have yet to be tested on the big stage.

In what way is Tom Briscoe overrated by the way? what part of his game would you say has been overhyped?

He's fast, makes breaks out of nothing, has a great fend (which we've seen over the last few weeks when he's one-on-one), is an amazing cover tackler, has pace and has a knack for getting over the try line. All this in a poor team. And he's only 21.

That would be around 58 seconds more quality than Super League then!

I tend to agree with the doom merchants on here.

Let's just cancel the whole pointless thing.

I personally always look forward to the internationals as a major highlight (in fact "the" highlight) , and this year is no different , however in response to the OP's question then the answer is clearly no based on our last game....

The evidence may well change after the 5th and 12th of November, and indeed it should if the coach is worth his position.., a full strength team (upto now) aside from Burgess and home advantage...the Aussies and Kiwis already missing players..

Indeed, apparently he scoffs that people think Aussies 3rd team could beat us, well they don't need to as the Overseas retirement brigade saved them a job.

Long term solution, why is Briscoe close to retirement???

We're still not good enough man for man and we have 5hite coach. We may be more competetive but we'll still come up short. Hopefully this generation of young players will do what the previous generations could not do and become more than just a decent athlete, and actually develop into world class RL players.

S Tomkins,
Hall, Shenton, Reed, Briscoe,
Widdop, Lomax,
Graham, Roby, Peacock,
Westwood, Ellis,
O'Loughlin. Bench - Brough, Heighington, Crabtree, Carvell.

Shenton has to go in as right centre as Reed & Yeaman are both left centres.
Yeaman & Briscoe are too small together to face the Aussies.
Widdop is a shoe in and Lomax the form scrum half in the league.
Not sure about who's better for the pack or bench than the ones I've mentioned. Any Thoughts?

Exactly.
People forget Briscoe's age simply because he's been around a little while now and the size of the bloke. He's only 21 this season.

We need a kicking game, though. Perhaps give both Lomax and Brough a half each against Wales? That way we can see if Widdop can supply a kicking game that Lomax can't, or whether Brough with his kicking gmae and perhaps superior organisation is a better bet.