Quote: Judder Man "I think you are underestimating St Helens as a team and its capabilities here. Saints cover more ground than any other team because they have no real kicking game and have been the top metre makers for the past 4 years including this season. They are averaging 3000+ metres per man and its obvious Roby and Graham are above average as they can exploit gaps quicker both in Superleague and the International game.
I,m "voting" for Roby because whichever way you look at it he's impressive and the opposition is incapable of stopping what he is good at. His discipline is immaculate, plays full on for 80 mins and is truly a world class player respected by all.'"
TBH mate, your post doesn;t really make sense (apart from the Roby stuff - I would have no issue with him winning).
On your first points, again, they make most metres because they carry the ball more. Let's compare the top three teams.
Saints make an extra 27metres per game than Wire, and 54metres per game than Wigan, which is around 4 tackles for Wire and just over a set of 6 for Wigan.
Saints however carry the ball 10 times per game more than Wigan, and 23 times more than Wire. So basically in four sets they make only 27 metres more than Wire.
This is sort of my point, and the point with Roby and Graham. They aren't the best metre makers in the league, they simply are given the ball more whereas others spread the work. Don't get me wrong, these players could easily be descirbed as the hardest working, but metres per carry etc gives a truer reflection. Both Wigan and Wire make more metres per set of 6.
Wire and Wigan make more metres per carry than Saints, and score more tries. Saints obviously keep hold of the ball more because they are getting to the end of their sets more often, as opposed to the other two, who are often finishing sets early with tries.
And finally, if you take each team's top 3 metre makers:
Saints - Roby, Graham, LMS
Wire - Hodgson, Wood, Monagham
Wigan - Tomkins, Richards, Charnley
Saints top 3 make up 30% of their team's total metres and carries. Wire and Wigan's carry for between 20-21% of their team's carries, and between 20-25% of their metres. There is a balance issue with Saints as a team, and this suggests quite the opposite of your original point of the team working hard and all the players doing their bit making the hard yards.
Personally I think it is a slight weakness of the Saints team, that there is an over-reliance of Roby and Graham. These two players actually make more carries than Wire's top 3 combined.