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Why is Huddersfield's objective to "become the best Super League club in Yorkshire"? Surely everyone's objective should be to become the best SL club in SL.

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Quote: John Charnock "Why is Huddersfield's objective to "become the best Super League club in Yorkshire"? Surely everyone's objective should be to become the best SL club in SL.'"


Because by being in Yorkshire they're better than all non Yorkshire clubs already.

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Quote: Code13 "Halifax had plenty of warning their bid needed work when they got knocked back in favour of Widnes. At that point they should have indeed got a 3rd party in to review their presentation.

In terms of process, letting Halifax in was too soon for Fax IMO'"


Got to agree with that. It's simple - Halifax have got to do what Widnes did, including getting a backer(s).

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Quote: littlerich "Not really. You have to be able to demonstrate that you can offer more than a current club. I don't think that happened. As you will agree, we need a backer and a substantial increase in attendances.'"



I mean you were shafted afterwards , if things had panned out as they expected , Wakey would have got the chop , Fax would have been congratulated on an excellent application that just fell short but promised much for the future

But because your Chairman had the temerity to voice his anger at the decsion as he saw it , essentially the RFL bottling it at the last minute , they decided to teach you a lesson , its like watching ' Tom Browns school days ' played out to a RL background , " do as your're told Boy or you'll get a ' roasting ' "

Its quite pathetic really

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Anything that keeps Starbug out of Superleague is a good thing.

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Quote: Code13 "Anything that keeps Starbug out of Superleague is a good thing.'"


Which team does Starbug follow?

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Quote: Starbug "I mean you were shafted afterwards , if things had panned out as they expected , Wakey would have got the chop , Fax would have been congratulated on an excellent application that just fell short but promised much for the future

But because your Chairman had the temerity to voice his anger at the decsion as he saw it , essentially the RFL bottling it at the last minute , they decided to teach you a lesson , its like watching ' Tom Browns school days ' played out to a RL background , " do as your're told Boy or you'll get a ' roasting ' "

Its quite pathetic really'"

Whatever you think about the RFL, do you genuinely believe that this is how organisations such as Savills, KPMG and Leeds Metropolitan University who assisted the RFL in the assessment of the submissions behave?

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Quote: Code13 "Anything that keeps Starbug out of Superleague is a good thing.'"


It's a pity something similar couldn't befoul you really.

As for this, it's not all that enlightening. It still doesn't answer the question as to why the RFL deemed Halifax worthy of putting in a bid after originally going over their application and then deciding later it fell well short. If it did then why give them the impression they had a chance in the second round of bids? If it didn't why imply that it did?

What exactly did they think was going to happen in the short interim between widnes getting a license and the rest being confirmed?

A bit illogical to me. It's possible that Halifax were well short but if that's the case don't lead them on, give them the truth in the first place so they don't waste time and resources.

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Quote: Code13 "Anything that keeps Starbug out of Superleague is a good thing.'"


Starbug will be Chairman of the RFL by 2020. The [iRevolution de la flat cap [/iis almost upon us.

Go Starbug !!!!

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Quote: Chris Dalton "It's a pity something similar couldn't befoul you really.

As for this, it's not all that enlightening. It still doesn't answer the question as to why the RFL deemed Halifax worthy of putting in a bid after originally going over their application and then deciding later it fell well short. If it did then why give them the impression they had a chance in the second round of bids? If it didn't why imply that it did?

What exactly did they think was going to happen in the short interim between widnes getting a license and the rest being confirmed?

A bit illogical to me. It's possible that Halifax were well short but if that's the case don't lead them on, give them the truth in the first place so they don't waste time and resources.'"


Some would say .......... The original plan - Widnes in, Wakey out. Halifax were used in order to make the whole process palatable. I mean, what's the point of running through a sham process when every man and his dog knew that Widnes were in and Wakey were out? Halifax were the RFL's curveball. But, right on cue, the RFL's pet project bailed out at the eleventh hour and they then they had to put Halifax to the sword with their weak bid instead of saying well done with the bid but no cigar. Wakey fans will tell you till the cows come home that their bid won them a place on merit but everyone who doesn't have mashed up dundee cake for a brain knows that the Crusaders demise saved them. That said, i still have no doubt that Wakey's bid as at that time was better than Halifax's.

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Quote: littlerich "Some would say .......... The original plan - Widnes in, Wakey out. Halifax were used in order to make the whole process palatable. I mean, what's the point of running through a sham process when every man and his dog knew that Widnes were in and Wakey were out? Halifax were the RFL's curveball. But, right on cue, the RFL's pet project bailed out at the eleventh hour and they then they had to put Halifax to the sword with their weak bid instead of saying well done with the bid but no cigar. Wakey fans will tell you till the cows come home that their bid won them a place on merit but everyone who doesn't have mashed up dundee cake for a brain knows that the Crusaders demise saved them. That said, i still have no doubt that Wakey's bid as at that time was better than Halifax's.'"


"Peace of mind I'm sure. Especially if you have elderly relatives on board." icon_lol.gif

As far as I can see there are only two possibilities. Either you are right, or Crusaders were pushed and were made able to "pull out" to save face. If the latter is the case, it goes against several press releases the RFL made relatively close to the announcement about the importance of the crusaders, but then, crusaders were signing players for next season very close to them pulling out too. I think Wakefield were going and they knew it, Fax were there in order to make it look like anything but a foregone conclusion, to make it look like a real bidding process but then something happened at crusaders, whether it was at the club or something the RFL discovered regarding their long term viability, which made them pull out. Wakefield were preparing for life in the championship and got lucky.

I don't think they even bothered looking at Fax's bid all that much. It was deemed strong enough to get through to this stage of the process and but then not strong enough to come close to earning a license, which is illogical to me. Either they are stringing you along about the bid you submitted originally in order to gain credibility of the process, or it was on the verge of being strong enough and they had made their minds up before you submitted it. Essentially, crusaders pull out at the nth hour, the powers that be think, great, we don't have to drop wakefield...and you weren't in that equation and they didn't have time to put you in that equation.

These bite size paragraphs regarding the licenses don't really explain all that much. These documents would have been extensive and covered a variety of fields. A sentence on each of them is not going to tell the full story.

But c'est la vie. Life goes on. Sincerest good luck to Halifax for the future, I'll be rooting for you next time.

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Quote: Starbug "I mean you were shafted afterwards , if things had panned out as they expected , Wakey would have got the chop , Fax would have been congratulated on an excellent application that just fell short but promised much for the future

But because your Chairman had the temerity to voice his anger at the decsion as he saw it , essentially the RFL bottling it at the last minute , they decided to teach you a lesson , its like watching ' Tom Browns school days ' played out to a RL background , " do as your're told Boy or you'll get a ' roasting ' "

Its quite pathetic really'"


No, you are pathetic!

It has been said time and time again that this myth that the RFL bottled kicking out Wakefield 'at the last minute' was clearly just as much rubbish as you are often inclined to post. Once the consultants, KPMG in particular, got into the bones of Crusaders application they knew, quite a few weeks out that it was a problem. I understand from very good sources that, particularly in the final two weeks prior to the announcement, the RFL were trying to get Crusaders to either give them more information to prove some very bold claims or withdraw their application.

There was nothing last minute about it. Wakefield were only ever in danger because people speculated (see earlier helpful definition) they might have the weakest application! Those people were wrong and they didn't, and the Crusaders and Halifax applications were clearly weaker and that is why Wakefield were given a licence. I am sure you can understand this... can't you!

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Quote: Dunbar "Whatever you think about the RFL, do you genuinely believe that this is how organisations such as Savills, KPMG and Leeds Metropolitan University who assisted the RFL in the assessment of the submissions behave?'"


I don't recall seeing any direct announcements from any of those organizations , all they do is asses , the RFL then use that information and make the decision, so your point isn't relevant

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Quote: Code13 "Anything that keeps Starbug out of Superleague is a good thing.'"


Who says I want to be in SL ?

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Quote: Code13 "Anything that keeps Starbug out of Superleague is a good thing.'"


Why what are you scared of ?

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