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| Quote: Bull Mania "Good post. Whether fans like it or not Harlequins are vital it making sure we go forward as a sport. Yes they get poor attendances and struggle financially against the other teams. But Salford only get around a 1000 more fans, and thier a heartland club. So all fans slating Quins attendances need to look at the heartlands attendances because they not THAT much better.
The main reasons we have Quins is mainly because of the TV contract. SKY won't pay £90million for a TV cntract where itonly audience will be on the M62 corridor. even though 90% of the audience will be on the M62 corridor, it doesn't look good for the RFL when trying to get a new contract, that all the teams are in one area.
Another slight point is that amount of kids playing the game. Take Quins away again, and all these schools stop playing RL. This will impact massively on the funding the RFL get. Without this funding the heartland clubs will struggle financially.'"
But if so many kids are playing RL in London now, why aren't the crowds reflecting this?
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| Quote: Roofs "But if so many kids are playing RL in London now, why aren't the crowds reflecting this?
The same reason why thousands of kids up and down the country play Union, League, football and cricket but dont go to games.
The local non league footie team has god knows how many junior and women teams do any of these kids go. I dont know the reason but it happens across the board and not just London RL.
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| Quote: Roofs "But if so many kids are playing RL in London now, why aren't the crowds reflecting this?
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| how many people playing the game has nothing to do with people going to watch games, i played the game for years in different teams, and at my calculation only 5 or 6 out at least 120 i played with watch pro RL. a few more i know go to big matches but not regular games.
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| Quote: headhunter "Why would kids playing the game have any bearing on the number of fans watching Harlequins RL?'"
Because usually if you start playing a sport at a young age it's because you are interested in it. Therefore if you become interested you usually want to go and support a local team. Therefore, with Fulcrubronquins being the only SL experiment in London you would expect any kid playing who wants to watch a live game to go watch FCBQ. So, if thousands of kids in the capital are playing RL (as we are told), wouldn't FCBQ's crowds have gone up even just a bit in recent years rather than down?
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| Quote: Roofs "Because usually if you start playing a sport at a young age it's because you are interested in it. Therefore if you become interested you usually want to go and support a local team. Therefore, with Fulcrubronquins being the only SL experiment in London you would expect any kid playing who wants to watch a live game to go watch FCBQ. So, if thousands of kids in the capital are playing RL (as we are told), wouldn't FCBQ's crowds have gone up even just a bit in recent years rather than down?'"
remember parents have to take the kids!
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| Quote: Roofs "Because usually if you start playing a sport at a young age it's because you are interested in it. Therefore if you become interested you usually want to go and support a local team. Therefore, with Fulcrubronquins being the only SL experiment in London you would expect any kid playing who wants to watch a live game to go watch FCBQ. So, if thousands of kids in the capital are playing RL (as we are told), wouldn't FCBQ's crowds have gone up even just a bit in recent years rather than down?'" No, there's absolutely no reason that kids playing RL in London would have any relation to the number of people watching the Harlequins club. The only reason kids support 'local clubs' is because their parents take them. If the kids playing in London have any interest in watching the game, which is unlikely, then they will probably support sides like Wigan or Brisbane. There's no reason at all that they would want to go and watch Harlequins.
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| Quote: headhunter "No, there's absolutely no reason that kids playing RL in London would have any relation to the number of people watching the Harlequins club. The only reason kids support 'local clubs' is because their parents take them. If the kids playing in London have any interest in watching the game, which is unlikely, then they will probably support sides like Wigan or Brisbane. There's no reason at all that they would want to go and watch Harlequins.'"
That doesn't make any sense, because that's like saying most the kids playing RL in Hull will probably support Wigan or Brisbane, but I'd say that 8 times out of 10, if you see a kid wearing an RL shirt it's either Hull or Rovers.
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| Quote: kobashi "remember parents have to take the kids!'"
Not if teenage years tbf. Well, I used to get the bus to Rovers anyway.
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| Quote: Roofs "That doesn't make any sense, because that's like saying most the kids playing RL in Hull will probably support Wigan or Brisbane, but I'd say that 8 times out of 10, if you see a kid wearing an RL shirt it's either Hull or Rovers.
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| Quote: headhunter "Yeah, in a RL heartland such as Hull then the likelihood is that kids have been brought up on the game and been taken by their parents to watch the local teams since an early age. That's obviously not the case for kids in new areas, they have no reason to have any affiliation at all to Harlequins. You're also forgetting that compared to London, Hull is a very small place.'"
But surely overall that means then that Quins have a big advantage over the Hull clubs because they have more people to draw from, e.g. the amount of Australians living in the capital?
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| Quote: Roofs "But surely overall that means then that Quins have a big advantage over the Hull clubs because they have more people to draw from, e.g. the amount of Australians living in the capital?
Quins still need to convince and show Australians and others spending money on live RL is attractive. Problem Quins have is marketing, there budgets are very small so they cant get the message out there. This is where the RFL should be stepping in!
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| Quote: kobashi "Quins still need to convince and show Australians and others spending money on live RL is attractive. Problem Quins have is marketing, there budgets are very small so they cant get the message out there. This is where the RFL should be stepping in!'"
Well from what Nige said tonight , I can see them taking a more ' hands on ' approach to Quins , they cannot afford for them to fail now
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| Quote: Roofs "But surely overall that means then that Quins have a big advantage over the Hull clubs because they have more people to draw from, e.g. the amount of Australians living in the capital?
Urban myth 1: Australians are all 100% League nuts.
Regardless of what some idiots on here would like you to believe, RL is not the No 1 sport in 'stralia...most of the aussies in London own a wannabies shirt....the manager of the walkabout in the bush is an AFL fan.....there is little evidence that there are a load of anzac league fans in the capital.
I have said it many times.....when manly came to london for the WCC warm up there was a meet and greet arranged at the walkabout, the eagles and quins teams were there........30 people rolled up max an 20 of those were Quins RL fans.
It is a myth that all aussies are league mad......SoO Gets big figures on TV because it's a WEDNESDAY night......there is SFA all on the box to compete with.
Urban myth 2 : That all the kids playing RL in the capital MUST therefore attend QRL games. Roofs.....you got a bus to games when you were younger.......London is a tad larger than 'ull. There are many many thousands of kids playing the game in London and this is as a direct result of the london ESL club and the development PAID FOR BY DAVID HUGES.
Times up.......if the RFL don't take responsibility, then I see London folding, SKY pi55ing off and you roofs can get a bus to watch Wigans 100% professionals hammer HKA at a near derelict caravan park.......
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