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...we've been there, done that, won every game and bought the NFP grand final t-shirt, albeit not 3 years. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Conorgiantsfan "...we've been there, done that, won every game and bought the NFP grand final t-shirt, albeit not 3 years.

I'm sure you'd be welcome again icon_hug.gif

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Quote: LyndsayGill "I'm sure you'd be welcome again
...I think we're in Super League for the good of the game icon_wink.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Conorgiantsfan "...we've been there, done that, won every game and bought the NFP grand final t-shirt, albeit not 3 years.
Yes you certainly bought it icon_wink.gif , different scenario for Wakey though

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Quote: Starbug "Yes you certainly bought it
Let's ask Jonny what it was like for Leigh to lose 5 (?) consecutive Grand Finals...

Jonny...

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Conorgiantsfan "Let's ask Jonny what it was like for Leigh to lose 5 (?) consecutive Grand Finals...

Jonny...'"


Go on , give us a clue then ?

It was actually 3 in 4 years

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Well at least we won't be going down because of how bad we are at rugby, unlike the times we relegated Cas icon_wink.gif

Although people will remember this last season of Wakey in SL, I will remember us finishing 5th a couple of seasons ago. Last season we had a great side that would have pushed on even further IMO, we played Leeds off the park last season with the best squad I've seen from Trinity in Super League, unfortunately our best players (Brough, Tronc and Newton) left for different reasons shortly after and our season pretty much ended there. There's a lot of things that just didn't go our way in the past year or so, but it could have been so different, which is quite sad for us fans to see.

However...

I will embrace the Championship happily, I expect Trinity to be challenging for trophies every year which will be nice to see. Hopefully the RFL don't sling us into the graveyard of 'could have beens' though, although I feel the exclusion of WTW from SL for 3 years is an injustice, the possibility of never getting back in would make me feel very bitter. This is my fear rather than our impending relegation, with the RFL's unfair expansion policies however, it is certainly a possibility.

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Quote: Guerrier "Yep.

Byebye Wakey and Quins.

Bonjour Halifax.'"

Oddly enough, that wouldn't suprise me.

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[b:3fhhmde5][size=150:3fhhmde5]THE CO-OPERATIVE CHAMPIONSHIP NEEDS A STRONG WIGAN[/size:3fhhmde5][/b:3fhhmde5]:



Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "Oddly enough, that wouldn't suprise me.'"


There's more chance of seeing Lord Lucan riding Shergar down Chiswick High St than of Quins getting the boot next week.

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Quote: who needs flankers? "Will be at 11am on the 26th of July (confirmed today)


welcome to SL widnes...


well done u deserve it.

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Anyone who thinks Fulham will get the chop is living in cloud cuckoo land.

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Is it really that clear cut? I'd certainly be very worried if I was a supporter or official of Cas or Salford.

1. Ground - clearly Salford ahead with their new ground under construction, Wake next with a potential B grade after proposed improvements to BV with Cas a distant 3rd (the rules had to be relaxed to allow them promotion in 200icon_cool.gif. Both Cas and Wake in the same boat with regards a new ground. Wake do have an idea when a final decision will be made whereas with Cas it really is all smoke and mirrors so far as funding is concerned.

2. Crowds - clearly Salford last (av 4350 over franchise period) with not much to choose between Cas (av 7080) and Wake (av 6210). BUT Wake have much greater potential being a city as opposed to a town and the fact that Cas' crowds are approx 20% of the town's population means they've got a pretty saturated market.

3. Junior development - Wake should be miles in front since the RFL recently announced that their programme was one others should be emulating

4. Finance - OK Wake went bust but thanks to Crusaders this doesn't automatically exclude you anymore. Cas have no wealthy backer, Salford have Mr Wilkinson and Wakey Mr Glover. Of the 3 only Wake have stated that they can afford to spend up to the cap maximum over the next 3 years

5. On field - over the 3 years of the current franchise Salford haven't made the playoffs (yet) finishing 13th and 12th in 2009 and 2010, both Wake (5th) and Cas (7th) made them in 2009, neither made them in 2010 (Wake 11th, Cas 9th). Cas look most likely to make them this year.

And but wasn't it that nice chap Mr Caisley who at the onset of SL said something along the lines of 'if small town clubs such as Castleford are still in SL in 10-15 years time we will have failed'? Maybe the decision won't be what everyone expects.

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Quote: Kippaxer "There's more chance of seeing Lord Lucan riding Shergar down Chiswick High St than of Quins getting the boot next week.'"


You'd be surprised. FWIW, I'd put a fiver E/W on Shergar if I were you...

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Quote: Mr Dog "Is it really that clear cut? I'd certainly be very worried if I was a supporter or official of Cas or Salford.

1. Ground - clearly Salford ahead with their new ground under construction, Wake next with a potential B grade after proposed improvements to BV with Cas a distant 3rd (the rules had to be relaxed to allow them promotion in 200icon_cool.gif. Both Cas and Wake in the same boat with regards a new ground. Wake do have an idea when a final decision will be made whereas with Cas it really is all smoke and mirrors so far as funding is concerned.

2. Crowds - clearly Salford last (av 4350 over franchise period) with not much to choose between Cas (av 7080) and Wake (av 6210). BUT Wake have much greater potential being a city as opposed to a town and the fact that Cas' crowds are approx 20% of the town's population means they've got a pretty saturated market.

3. Junior development - Wake should be miles in front since the RFL recently announced that their programme was one others should be emulating

4. Finance - OK Wake went bust but thanks to Crusaders this doesn't automatically exclude you anymore. Cas have no wealthy backer, Salford have Mr Wilkinson and Wakey Mr Glover. Of the 3 only Wake have stated that they can afford to spend up to the cap maximum over the next 3 years

5. On field - over the 3 years of the current franchise Salford haven't made the playoffs (yet) finishing 13th and 12th in 2009 and 2010, both Wake (5th) and Cas (7th) made them in 2009, neither made them in 2010 (Wake 11th, Cas 9th). Cas look most likely to make them this year.

And but wasn't it that nice chap Mr Caisley who at the onset of SL said something along the lines of 'if small town clubs such as Castleford are still in SL in 10-15 years time we will have failed'? Maybe the decision won't be what everyone expects.'"


Don't like Cas much do you Mr Dog?

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Quote: Mr Dog "Is it really that clear cut? I'd certainly be very worried if I was a supporter or official of Cas or Salford.

1. Ground - clearly Salford ahead with their new ground under construction, Wake next with a potential B grade after proposed improvements to BV with Cas a distant 3rd (the rules had to be relaxed to allow them promotion in 200icon_cool.gif. Both Cas and Wake in the same boat with regards a new ground. Wake do have an idea when a final decision will be made whereas with Cas it really is all smoke and mirrors so far as funding is concerned.

2. Crowds - clearly Salford last (av 4350 over franchise period) with not much to choose between Cas (av 7080) and Wake (av 6210). BUT Wake have much greater potential being a city as opposed to a town and the fact that Cas' crowds are approx 20% of the town's population means they've got a pretty saturated market.

3. Junior development - Wake should be miles in front since the RFL recently announced that their programme was one others should be emulating

4. Finance - OK Wake went bust but thanks to Crusaders this doesn't automatically exclude you anymore. Cas have no wealthy backer, Salford have Mr Wilkinson and Wakey Mr Glover. Of the 3 only Wake have stated that they can afford to spend up to the cap maximum over the next 3 years

5. On field - over the 3 years of the current franchise Salford haven't made the playoffs (yet) finishing 13th and 12th in 2009 and 2010, both Wake (5th) and Cas (7th) made them in 2009, neither made them in 2010 (Wake 11th, Cas 9th). Cas look most likely to make them this year.

And but wasn't it that nice chap Mr Caisley who at the onset of SL said something along the lines of 'if small town clubs such as Castleford are still in SL in 10-15 years time we will have failed'? Maybe the decision won't be what everyone expects.'"


Who says manipulation of statistics can't give you the answer you want? icon_lol.gif
800 more on average at the gate is well over 10% more or at £20 a head £16,000 a home game more! With additional food and drink revenue that equals a salary of a youngster for an entire season for every home game!

cas are most likely to make the play offs this year? No S%@$t! What you mean is, they have almost made it and Wakefield have no chance. Look at the average finishing position over the 3 years. Cas will be an average of 8th, Salford and wakefield will be on a par with Bradford if they are lucky.

Regeneration of BV? As the old saying goes, you can't polish poo. If the Fev plan of buying a stand from Scarborough FC goes ahead you may as well move in with them.

As for the city vs town argument sleepy.gif Tell it to Aston Villa!

Anyway, less than a week to go and this will all be over.

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