I think you'll find most Leigh fans do not object to Widnes being given the licence at all, we may not like it but you deserve to be in SL!

the fact that people disagree with franchising is a seperate issue than Widnes not deserving a place.

Maybe 1 or 2 make stupid comments and think otherwise but I can only recall 1 person that I have personally spoken to that doesn't agree with you being given the nod (and that is out of bitterness nothing more).

Any, pointless thread, answer. Yes they do deserve their place and I hope they do well and prove a point

Haha i have actually laughed looking at this.

13,500 seater stadium
Solvent business
One of the biggest sponsors in Englisg rugby league who may be sponsoring SL next year
Good crowd
Best under 18s in the country.

Nahh Get Barrow in!

I think that is the point. Under this system sides have had 3 years to achieve those crowds and improve facilities & business... They have not. So let someone else have a go for 3 'guaranteed' years.

What if Halifax go up? They got a certificate (whey! ) yesterday saying they've past all criteria for Super League so it's not like it may not happen. They won the GF last year and were in the previous one as well. Would that work better for Wakey fans if/when they go down?

Of course Widnes should be in SL over Wakey under this system. If you're asking whether promotion/relegation for anyone should come back, well there's about 127 threads already on that. Mainly with the correct answer of 'No'.

Which is exactly what I posted as well

Yes he was , whereas the Leigh CEO told the truth

Your mate Dalton brought the subject up , not me , the Leigh corporate room was very public , and he was speaking into a microphone at the time

No leigh director commented on the Licences decision in 2008

Alan rowley , the Leigh CEO did give his opinion on it yes , one I agree with , so if speaking the truth is a problem , fair enough , he has been proved right

I have nothing against Widnes and congratulate and welcome to the SL.

Whilst a few/many (?) of us want or always preferred promotion and relegation we don't have that at the moment. With the franchise system teams and fans want to feel that the strongest applicants get a place at the top table. It is the subject of intense debate as to whether the current 14 at the top table are indeed the strongest applicants. As Kear said, how can you say the 14 strongest applicants will be determined when one club is elevated by decision in March and the others in July?

The way the RFL have designed it leaves it open to debate and in some cases bitterness due to perceptions.

Widnes have a strong application and I believe (in my perception) stronger than a fair few of the current SL clubs. So yes Widnes deserve their success.

I have voted 'no' purely because I'm fed up with all these 'Should Widnes be in SL' type threads that have popped up in the past few months.

Nobody cares what you think

I'm just surprised the OP didn't wait until we lost again before posting... As that is the norm is it not?

You must do or you wouldn't have kept bombarding my inbox with private messages a few weeks ago. 8 wasn't it?

I deleted them without opening them so I have no idea what you said.