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Good luck to Graham in the NRL. Will be interesting to see how the Bulldogs use him though – he has great hands for a prop and while some people on these forums feel he overplays the passing game, he has the best hands for a prop that I have seen since Lee Crooks (this is not an off-load game as Danny Sculthorpe and Lynch have better off loads but a passing game). The Bulldogs may feel he is a 60 minute workrate prop though which would be a shame

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: The Jamster "This may be a daft question but are people being sarcastic here?'"



Definitely not.

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I'm intregued at some peoples views on this subject, this is not me forcing an opinion i'm just interested where other are getting their opions from...

Not hacking it week in week out in the NRL? Why? He has one of the best records for remaining injury free and turning out week after week, what makes you think the he'll be any different down under? He the best prop (maybe player) in the Saints squad, a squad containing Josh Perry.

On what basis do people think he'll get home sick, has he showed this trait before?

Why does showing passion translate to 'spitting his dummy out'? And do big Tongans and Samoans have swords in the NRL because i saw a Big Kiwi in a pink shirt take the full force of Graham's dummy good friday.

Now this is my opinion...

He'll quickly become a highly reguarded export, his home fans will love him, the opposition fans will dispise him, he'll wind people up, he'll get targeted- but like he has always done he'll get back up. He'll develop massively, he'll be captain of England within 24 months.

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: The Jamster "I'm intregued at some peoples views on this subject, this is not me forcing an opinion i'm just interested where other are getting their opions from...

Not hacking it week in week out in the NRL? Why? He has one of the best records for remaining injury free and turning out week after week, what makes you think the he'll be any different down under? He the best prop (maybe player) in the Saints squad, a squad containing Josh Perry.

On what basis do people think he'll get home sick, has he showed this trait before?

Why does showing passion translate to 'spitting his dummy out'? And do big Tongans and Samoans have swords in the NRL because i saw a Big Kiwi in a pink shirt take the full force of Graham's dummy good friday.

Now this is my opinion...

He'll quickly become a highly reguarded export, his home fans will love him, the opposition fans will dispise him, he'll wind people up, he'll get targeted- but like he has always done he'll get back up. He'll develop massively, he'll be captain of England within 24 months.'"




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I did read that one, why are people only giving him a year before he's back, what makes him different than other English guys that have gone down there and made a name for themselves, eg Morley, Ellis, Burgess?

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: The Jamster "I did read that one, why are people only giving him a year before he's back, what makes him different than other English guys that have gone down there and made a name for themselves, eg Morley, Ellis, Burgess?'"


They were/are better players.

And appear not to spit the dummy as much as he does.

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I don't ever recall Burgess being named international prop of the year, has Morley, renowed for losing his cool (spitting his dummy out?), ever won man of steel, nope... but no your right icon_rolleyes.gif

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: The Jamster "I don't ever recall Burgess being named international prop of the year, has Morley, renowed for losing his cool (spitting his dummy out?), ever won man of steel, nope... but no your right
Look.

Clearly Graham makes you do a sex wee in your pants. Whether its his milk bottle white legs or ginger hair that does it for you I'm not sure.


But the bottom line is he is a dummy spitting whinger with an attitude problem who will end up upsetting the wrong person in the NRL and getting put on his backside.

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You know i really thought you were about to come back with a well formed arguement then, an argument that would test my opinion and give other board members something to chew, but no - what a shame, same old unfounded rubbish that has gone before sleepy.gif

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: The Jamster "You know i really thought you were about to come back with a well formed arguement then, an argument that would test my opinion and give other board members something to chew, but no - what a shame, same old unfounded rubbish that has gone before
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Quote: McClennan "You forgot to state that there is just as much chance as that not happening. Considering the economic situation the attendances on Good Friday were pretty amazing too. As for sacrificing youth development I doubt that will happen because it's a cost effective way of obtaining playing personnel. Only bad management will lead to that and there is as much reason to not believe your assumption that teams will follow your suggestion as there is to believe it.'"


I don't see it as a 50/50 split. Not at all. And youth development has been sacrificed before. It might be cost effective in the long run, but club chairman are notoriously fickle when it comes to anything other than the here and now.

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Quote: PHIPPS "Look.

Clearly Graham makes you do a sex wee in your pants. Whether its his milk bottle white legs or ginger hair that does it for you I'm not sure.


But the bottom line is he is a dummy spitting whinger with an attitude problem who will end up upsetting the wrong person in the NRL and getting put on his backside.'"


You fail to back any of your assertions up with evidence.

His performances in the past 2 seasons clearly illustrate he is a quality player who will do well in the NRL. I wonder if you actually watch the NRL as you seem to have a rather odd opinion of Graham's likely performances in the competition. You also have to remember he will be a member of a tough Bulldogs pack which will offer him decent support.

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Quote: PHIPPS "I agree.

I'm amazed an NRL club signed him. He will end up upsetting the wrong person (who will probably be a big Tongan or Samoan) when he has a tantrum. And aside from his dummy spits at the end of the day he is not really as good as people think.

I don't blame him for giving it a go in the NRL though. One thing is certain.

He will learn a lot.


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Quote: morleys_deckchair "clueless'"


Couldn't agree more mate.

He is just a wind up merchant with time to spare,troll of the highest order.

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anyone that doubts grahams quality as a top class prop is a bit of an idiot.

Barry is certainly one of them.

if he doesnt fry over there, like a hamster in a microwave.... he will be one of the best props in the NRL.

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