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| I found some of those pictures quite sad really. Its weird to see Swinton where they are now when you consider Station Road was an immense if dilapidated stadium.
And Bramley somehow selling the ground despite their being a covenant in place that should have prevented this? To this day they are a league club waiting to happen but for one simple fact...no stadium!
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| Ah, the good old days.
When having a roof on the gents toilet was considered a luxury. Was it a Challenge Cup semi-final at Station Road where the BBC overhead camera pulled back and brought into shot a row of heads belonging to blokes engaged in emptying their bladders?
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| Quote: JB Down Under "whilst I appreciate times and society moves on, I do feel sorry for new fans who never got to attend a derby at the Boulevard or old Craven Park. Crammed in, no room to move, electric atmosphere, noise like you wouldn't believe, initimidation from the threepenny stand, trying to keep your balance on the away end steps, pie and peas from the converted train carriage, being able to drive your 3 wheeler up to the in goal if you were disabled! and all for 85p! Them were the days! I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced the old and the new.
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Was it that great though? Or is just our memories tell us things were great in the old days because we enjoyed them at the time. I used to love going to Wilderspool and obviously it has a great history and loads of memories. But having settled into the HJ, going back there occasionally for a u20s match you can see it for what it is - an ageing, not very good stadium. If the move was done the other way round, fans would be up in arms.
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| Quote: SEB "Was it that great though? Or is just our memories tell us things were great in the old days because we enjoyed them at the time. I used to love going to Wilderspool and obviously it has a great history and loads of memories. But having settled into the HJ, going back there occasionally for a u20s match you can see it for what it is - an ageing, not very good stadium. If the move was done the other way round, fans would be up in arms.'"
If you're a top end SL team it is better now, for all others it was better then!
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| Quote: SEB "Was it that great though? Or is just our memories tell us things were great in the old days because we enjoyed them at the time. I used to love going to Wilderspool and obviously it has a great history and loads of memories. But having settled into the HJ, going back there occasionally for a u20s match you can see it for what it is - an ageing, not very good stadium. If the move was done the other way round, fans would be up in arms.'"
Having been to the HJ twice the last few years I'd have to say I preferred Wilderspool. I don't think seeing the U20's playing there could ever be compared to watching the first team.
However your view could be quite different based on how much more succesful you have been as a club since moving.
I think the argument over old/new stadia being a measure around the success or not of franchising is flawed. What comes first? A new stadium or a succesful club?
A lot of people tend to forget that not so long ago, these dirty, filthy, derelict stadiums held the kind of crowds we can only dream of.
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| A lot of people tend to forget that not so long ago, these dirty, filthy, derelict stadiums held the kind of crowds we can only dream of.'" ]
That is oh so true!
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| Better than a 20% full Galpharm stadium where you cannot stand up.
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| Quote: littlerich "This post doesn"t surprise me one bit. You'll never ever ever ever be able to understand. You understand little about the realities of the game so it's of no surprise that you are unable to connect to past histories and memories of our Great Game.
For what it's worth - these stadiums ARE best left behind but that shouldn't stop a true fan from having an emotional tie. Sadly for you Dally you're not a true fan. The AFL is calling you once again . . . . .'"
lol thanks for the memories mate ...
those grounds were a dump stuff the memories
and as a fax fan ill remind you of a comment an aussie player made on playing at Thrum Hall during the ill fated 97 WCC - this what it mustve been like to play rugby in the northern union
modern grounds ...mordern clubs ...
simply those poor grounds, winter rugby and no salary cap ---i understand now exactly why the english club game was stuffed and now isnt
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Absolutely and despite the obvious positives some teams completely ignored the fans and the need for new stadia, hence when franchising came in they were dragged into the 21st century ie Salford and Saints. Unfortunately despite the obvious advantages of new stadia some teams have ignored it and still play in crap stadiums.'"
exactly
thought the next round of franchising will see wakey out and i believe cas will sort out their ground
so pretty much only odsal will be the only real average ground in SL which is a fair improvement from before
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| Quote: The Clan "It's amazing to think that at the time when these grounds were in their pomp and RL in England was played in the midst of bitter winters, Australia & NZ couldn't buy a win against GB and even club sides, especially Wakefield, regularly put the cleaners through Australias Test team.
Your assumption that RL back then was poorly served by the stadia and the weather is well wide of the Mark.'"
yeah the decline of wakey explains the decline of GB ...
heck you should put that in your franchise application next time ...
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| Quote: dally messenger "lol thanks for the memories mate ...
those grounds were a dump stuff the memories
and as a fax fan ill remind you of a comment an aussie player made on playing at Thrum Hall during the ill fated 97 WCC - this what it mustve been like to play rugby in the northern union
modern grounds ...mordern clubs ...
simply those poor grounds, winter rugby and no salary cap ---i understand now exactly why the english club game was stuffed and now isnt'"
Hey Dally - i agree with you on the ground situation - better to have modern stadiums no question. Really I was just sympathising with you for not having a soul. Carry on squire
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| Quote: Odemwingie "How dare you put Central park on there! It is better than most super league grounds now!'"
Lol it was awful.
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| Quote: Katie.Smithson "Lol it was awful.'"
No it wasn't.
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| Although the ‘stadium’ is essentially still in use, here are two old stands from Belle Vue’s history which no longer exist.
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| im sure the one on the left does still exist. its just had new seats and a lick of paint
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