Very poor if they are promoting this mickey mouse game when they never made such an effort for genuine internationals.

Do you belive that? Really?

It's like in '95 when "Ronnie's coming" was posted on the scoreboard at Headingley a few times a game. The announcer pretended like he didnt know to build up a bit of hype.

ronnie kray.........ssshhhh you ain't seen me...right !!!

It's very poor that they are promoting a game? Really?

Why have you quoted half a post, and then taken that half completely out of context? WTF was the point in that?

It's a self paid for promotion from a new franchise that is applying for a Super League place.

Similar to the Crusaders with their countdown timer that started years in advance.

Whatever it's for, it's better than the England RL badge.

How can you say that, they employ Phil Clarke?

Its called building intrigue.

It's very much in context. They're promoting something, and you're whinging about the fact that it's being promoted. If it's getting promoted more than something in the past, surely that's a good thing?

The point is you're being extremely negative and patronising about something that's positive (more promotion of the game) because it doesn't suit you. Taking out the little dig about the game (Mickey Mouse) and comparing it to something in the past (you can improve things over time, you know), basically shows the daftness of what you're saying. I'd say that's a pretty good F'n point.

No he didnt, we can all read what he put.

Very poor if they are promoting this mickey mouse game [iwhen they never made such an effort for genuine internationals[/i

you simply removed the context to try and give a smartd reply.

It is a very valid point. Why make such an effort for this gimmick game, when they did next to nothing for the genuine internationals?

And just so you dont get confused. That isnt to say they shouldnt make the effort for this game. The point is it highlights the poor effort they made for genuine internationals, which had it received the same effort would likely have been more successful.

In 2008 and 2009 weren't these games in France? Possibly half the reason why.
And it's hardly "such an effort" they're putting in by putting a logo on the screen (that was used twice all night and not even acknowledged, and we don't even know whether it is the Overseas team or not). I'm pretty sure they'll have advertised the France games that were played over here on the pitch, on TV, etc. but people might not have noticed them that much.

People have noticed this extremely subtle advertisement because there's a mystique behind it. It's hardly a huge advertising campaign. I can't believe people are trying to find negatives on promoting the game. There's no mystique behind the France team, so it couldn't be promoted in the same way.

Only people with an issue with us playing an overseas select team would try so hard to find criticism. If we weren't promoting it much, no doubt these same people would be whinging about that fact also.

And how much did we do in france? how much did we do when we shipped the game off to a fairly small stadium in Leigh (not meant as an insult to the LSV btw)
Its more than they did before.

there is no 'mystique' behind an exiles side. The RFL are trying to build it, something they could have done for the france game. For the first time they have done something cost-effective, intelligent and shockingly for them 'good' and its for a gimmick game. Where is this thinking for promoting something that actually matters, SL, the championships, the international game?
Why when clubs are struggling for attendances, there is a recession on, it is a franchise year, a year we re-negotiate our TV deal are we putting what is clearly time and effort building up a pointless gimmick game when the fundamental parts of the game are hardly rolling in visibility.

the point still hasnt quite sunk in yet has it? There is no criticism of the RFL promoting this game. Their promotion has started off pretty well, they have done something good. The criticism is that they are spending time promoting this meaningless game, when genuine and meaningful parts of the game are struggling and were and are in desperate need of that kind of promotion.

Ill just repeat what i said and hope it does this time.

The point is it highlights the poor effort they made for genuine internationals, which had it received the same effort would likely have been more successful

William Hague posted this on the Nato website just before his Libyan adventure (allegedly)