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| The BEST R.U. Converts ever.
Martin Offiah
Jonathan Davies
Alan Tait
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| Quote: Widneslatic "The BEST R.U. Converts ever.
Martin Offiah
Jonathan Davies
Alan Tait
END OF.'"
If only you had stopped typing after the first two
There is certainly an argument for Davies and Offiah being among the most successful Union converts ever but you are pushing it with Tait – a very fine player, but really is he in the same category as Boston or Watkins?
Or did you mean these were the best Union converts you have seen play – END OF?
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| Too many people have short memories or no sense of history. RL owes a lot more to RU than many would like to think.
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| Quote: cjhatesunion "Which are the best players from the dark side to grace our game.
There have been some belters like Offiah,Boston,Davies,Coslett and so on.
For me(and this is going of my Dad)I will go for Tom Van Vollenhoven,who is your best,thoughts please.'"
So not Michael O'Connor then ?
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| Quote: Dunbar "If only you had stopped typing after the first two
There is certainly an argument for Davies and Offiah being among the most successful Union converts ever but you are pushing it with Tait – a very fine player, but really is he in the same category as Boston or Watkins?
Or did you mean these were the best Union converts you have seen play – END OF?'"
To be fair to Widneslatic, Tait was a hugely exciting and talented player. The way he chimed into the line at Widnes was great to see and his depedency at full back made him one of the first on the teamsheet whoever he played for. He represented GB on 16 occasions including the World Cup final and won practically every honour in RL (unsure about Wembley) and won the Harry Sunderland trophy back to back in 88 & 89. When he went back to Union he was selected for te successful Lions tour of 97 scoring in the first test.
Not saying he was the best but he was right up there.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Too many people have short memories or no sense of history. RL owes a lot more to RU than many would like to think.'"
true if the RFU were an honest organisation wed still be playing RU
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| Quote: Redchemic "To be fair to Widneslatic, Tait was a hugely exciting and talented player. The way he chimed into the line at Widnes was great to see and his depedency at full back made him one of the first on the teamsheet whoever he played for. He represented GB on 16 occasions including the World Cup final and won practically every honour in RL (unsure about Wembley) and won the Harry Sunderland trophy back to back in 88 & 89. When he went back to Union he was selected for te successful Lions tour of 97 scoring in the first test.
Not saying he was the best but he was right up there.'"
You are right, Tait was a very good player
I guess I just objected to the statement that those three were the "The BEST R.U. Converts ever... END OF" when there are obviously many other great players to consider
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| Quote: nickcat0 "So not Michael O'Connor then ?'"
Can't deny nick that he was a great RL player when he came from union.
But in saying that when he played for Saints he was completely useless.
Doesn't he now coach the Aussies RU sevens side?
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| Quote: dally messenger "true if the RFU were an honest organisation wed still be playing RU'"
Although it would be RU with 13 players aside, less kicking, no lineouts or scrums which are solely designed to cripple participants. It would also be faster flowing with more emphasis on passing the ball and would still be dominated by teams in the North of england.
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| Quote: Widneslatic "The BEST R.U. Converts ever.
Martin Offiah
Jonathan Davies
Alan Tait
END OF.'"
Offiah and Davies are great players that came from union.
Tait was a good player but not in the same league IMO.
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| I think it's fair to say that more Union converts have been successful in league than the other way round.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Although it would be RU with 13 players aside, less kicking, no lineouts or scrums which are solely designed to cripple participants. It would also be faster flowing with more emphasis on passing the ball and would still be dominated by teams in the North of england.'"
Too right.
Isn't it true that at the time of the great split in 1895 that the northern clubs where dominating the southern softies.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Although it would be RU with 13 players aside, less kicking, no lineouts or scrums which are solely designed to cripple participants. It would also be faster flowing with more emphasis on passing the ball and would still be dominated by teams in the North of england.'"
you cant be certain of that
the RFU has been resistant to change for over a century, it like the way its game is played
the nswru/ARU and NZRU have been begging them for rule changes for 100 years and they never do much
and had RL not been around in 1908 there would only be 1 major sport in australia, AFL
union was on the wane and AFL taking over in nsw and queensland until RL came and took over
so really ive got a lot to thank the RFU for. they gave me the nrl indirectly
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| Quote: PHIPPS "I think it's fair to say that more Union converts have been successful in league than the other way round.'"
That’s a pretty big call
I would be fascinated to know how you would go about proving that? (or were you just being facetious)
To help get you started, below is a list of the League converts since 1996 who have gone on to achieve full Union international caps that I can think of
Over to you
Jason Robinson
Barrie Jon Mather
Andrew Walker
Iestyn Harris
Henry Paul
Brad Thorn
Mat Rogers
Wendell Sailor
Lote Tuqiri
Andy Farrell
Berrick Barnes
Ben MacDougall
Chris Ashton
Ryan Cross
Lesley Vainikolo
Timana Tahu
Sonny Bill Williams
Craig Gower
Shontayne Hape
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| Quote: PHIPPS "I think it's fair to say that more Union converts have been successful in league than the other way round.'"
Only because it has been the last 15 years since RL players went to play RU. Prior to that hardly anyone would have gone to RU from RL.
Despite that RU is desparate to sign RL players now because they have problems developing players with the requisite handling and tackling skills.
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