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| Quote: Eddie Marks "seems to me that hull kr have discovered a loophole the rfl missed and are now simply using it,and the rfl are going with it as they are too late to do anything else.you cant rely have a dig at hkr about it in a results driven envoirement as they are simply trying to do the best they can in the short term.
the rfl really need to adress this asap though as having so many overseas players in super league is not conducive to the development of our indigenous young players.'"
No they haven't discovered a loophole.
The overseas quota runs in conjunction with the non-fed trained rules (introduced in 200icon_cool.gif
For instance just using Leeds.
There are currently 7 "foreign" players in Leeds squad
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Quote: Eddie Marks "as well as capping it to 5 overseas players regardless of kolpak/loopholes etc.'"
Obviously that is harder to do than to say. They tried to do it in 2008 with the Non-Fed trained rules but the Simon Finnigan case (IIRC) forced their hard to have exemptions. However those exemptions will steadily retire/move back to the NRL and we will eventually have a hard and fast limit... hopefully.
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| Rovers have no players according to their website though!!!!
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| Quote: nick hkr "Rovers have no players according to their website though!!!!'"
Well it's a novel way of avoiding the overseas quota and salary cap rules
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| All these rules that may have legal ramifications in the future could all be put to bed if the RFL were to just state that X amount of players in each teams 17 must be home grown. As I have posted before you could have as many Aussies as you like but with only say 5 being allowed to play each week you are unlikely to sign 10 overseas stars. Link this in with an incentive for producing home grown players it could work so that teams only have 6 or 7 each anyway.
If home grown players were to be exempt from the cap then this money would probably just go to signing more Aussies so I don't think this should be the case but there does need to be something there to encourage teams.
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| you certainly know your rules bigrob but as you agreed it does need changing.must be frustrating trying to run a sport for the benefit of your own countries players and to be permanently at the mercy of court rulings etc which affect the rules and regs you want clubs to abide by.
or is it the rl's fault for just being too weak
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| Quote: nick hkr "All these rules that may have legal ramifications in the future could all be put to bed if the RFL were to just state that X amount of players in each teams 17 must be home grown. As I have posted before you could have as many Aussies as you like but with only say 5 being allowed to play each week you are unlikely to sign 10 overseas stars. Link this in with an incentive for producing home grown players it could work so that teams only have 6 or 7 each anyway.
Yep, I think like you say it'd be easier to continually up the requirement for homegrown players in a squad. But that would have repurcussions for a lot of teams in SL since players move from club to club.
If home grown players were to be exempt from the cap then this money would probably just go to signing more Aussies so I don't think this should be the case but there does need to be something there to encourage teams.'"
Yeah I agree there, it's not a simply solution sadly.
Quote: nick hkr " you certainly know your rules bigrob '"
Not really .honestly mate i'm not laughing at you, just the naivety of that statement.
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| While this is not a ' pop ' at licensing , it was pointed out at the time that clubs would always do what was best for themselves , and the quota system is a clear indication that all clubs will do that exactly that , some clubs are currently below or up to the limit , but most are over it one way or another
Yes HKR are particularily taking the Mick , but most clubs if they find themselves uncompetitive will do anything to move upwards , at the end of the day you cannot change human nature , coaches don't want to lose their jobs , chairmen don't want fans on their backs , and fans want a winning team
You can all pretend you are ' holyer than thou ' but your not
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| Quote: Traffic "Nope he's Aussie (he came from a team full of them!!)'"
I know he is but so is McGoldrick but he gets away with being "American" and I'm sure I've read somewhere before Youngquest claimed to have some Swedish routes taking him off the quota.
It's all stupid, like someone else said they should just say you should have 12 home trained players in the match day 17
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| Quote: j.c "icon_lol.gif
i maybe a little niave about the rfl and clubs,but why should they get away with breaking rules or stamping their feet if they dont get their own way when we cant.im pretty sure you have to toe the line in your place of employment etc, why should they be different.the rfl need to stand up for themselves.cant think of a more feeble sporting governing body
i suppose the joke is on everyone of us who put up with this moving the goalposts etc
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| Quote: Eddie Marks "i maybe a little niave about the rfl and clubs,but why should they get away with breaking rules or stamping their feet if they dont get their own way when we cant.im pretty sure you have to toe the line in your place of employment etc, why should they be different.the rfl need to stand up for themselves.cant think of a more feeble sporting governing body
i suppose the joke is on everyone of us who put up with this moving the goalposts etc'"
i'm on your side mate,all the way,but we all know its chairmen of certain clubs that dictate policy to the rfl and the rest of its member clubs.
i suppose ATEOTD it all boils down to pure greed.
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| Quote: j.c "i'm on your side mate,all the way,but we all know its chairmen of certain clubs that dictate policy to the rfl and the rest of its member clubs.
i suppose ATEOTD it all boils down to pure greed.'"
your not wrong mate,greed and an "i'll throw my toys out the pram syndrome" attitude.
for me though the rfl have to be stronger,however unlikely that is
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