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Do you not think that the smaller nations will never even give the big three a game if a player like Hayne plays for Fiji, improves due to playing the larger nations and then once he's improved and more experienced, changes nationality to a larger nation?

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A bunch of mostly NRL players making up most of those nations, who get spanked, aren't going to conjure money for their domestic leagues from the ground up. It's much more complicated than that and I don't have the answer either.

Right now, i'm most inclined to believe the best thing for the game is for the cream of the crop to look unbelievable. That's what creates new fans and inspires current fans. It's better than a blunted talent peak, where it's perhaps more competitive, but more a case of everyone just being average. Spectacle is the biggest strength for audience sports.

Players like Hayne would no doubt have chosen Australia if he was told he could never change. Just like Marshall would never be a Kangaroo despite being eligible.

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Its time for a change! We need to get rid of the idiots running the RLIF before they damage the sport beyond repair! Go the Tigers, Blues and Roos!:



Quote: jonny the leyther "Both Tuquiri and Civonaceva were born in Fiji you plank. Civonaceva chose Australia on the 'i've lived there for a bit' rule. Tuquiri played for Fiji, then changed his mind about where he's from, just like Jarryd Hayne, who was born in Australia, but chose Fiji. Then the Kangaroos realised they wern't as good as they used to be and he was an Aussie again.

Not exactly credible is it?

Ben Harrison is the same, sorry mate, you're Irish now.'"



you should learn all of the facts before commenting, because you clearly have no idea about the history of all 3 players. civo moved to australia when he was 3 months old, he grew up here and is proud to represent his country. who are you to tell him he is not as australian as the other players? this doesnt mean he isnt also proud of his fijian heritage, heard of dual nationality? he made a decision to play for australia and he has stuck with that decision, unlike our friends fui fui moi moi and taniela tuaki who change countries every year.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "It's the kind of experience Civoniceva, at 34, now wants for himself too. "Yeah, at the moment I'm a bit of a fake Fijian," the Penrith bookend laughs. "I was only three months old when I came to Australia and, as soon as anyone from back home hears my voice, well, there is no doubting that I'm an Aussie.

"And I'm very proud to be Australian. It's why I became a citizen. But now that I have kids of my own, I wanna teach them all about a culture that I haven't had a lot to do with ... it's like there's a void there and I want to fill it."'"


not that i agree with that article at all, but just in case you were doubting petero's australianess.

tuquri moved to australia when he was a toddler. he opted for fiji in the 2000 world cup when he was cut from the australian train on squad and was given assurances by the arl that if he helped fiji out it wouldnt affect his future origin and kangaroo chances which is of course a ridiculous way to run international sport. are you telling him that he also isnt an australian?

hayne played for australia in 07 but was cut from the world cup squad in 08. he was then invited to play for fiji in the world cup due to his dad (who he does not have a great relationship with) being born in fiji. as soon as the world cup was over he was allowed to switch back to australia. the whole episode makes a mockery out of our sport, he should never have been allowed to play for fiji!

yes, we need to put systems in place which make it more attractive for players to play for their countries of heritage (as long as they commit to this country and not play for them if they miss out on their first choice), but at the end of the day if they are australian they have every right to play for their state and country. where you are born does not solely define your nationality.

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Quote: gutterfax "20,000 average over 7 games.......final between the 2 best sides in the world gets 37,000 (71% capacity).....International RL is still not getting the support from the fans it deserves. The Final was a great advert for the game, but yet again, the Australian RL fans couldn't be bothered to roll up
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Ramble, ramble, union, union, droll, droll, union, union, ramble, ramble...

Thanks again. Stopped reading at "Twickenham" when I realised it was your usual post just regurgitated. For about the thousandth time.

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Quote: Dico "You're looking a pretty big idiot here.
Such a response is simply because you're so emphatically wrong there is nowhere else to turn, even the nazi line has passed you'"


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Go SBW, Ashton, Hape etc.

All struggling...

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Old Darlin "
Your own mantra is that Union is a terrible game, so why wouldn't a league convert do well?

You continue to be shown up on here as nothing but a poor impersonation of a wind-up-merchant....you add nothing to debate. You started this thread expecting to get a nibble...you got one, but, instead of reasoned debate, you resort to name calling.
Sooner the mods figure out that you bring nothing to the boards and send you back to where you came from the better.

I repeat.....International RL is a shambles and needs to be sorted out from top to bottom. Whilst there are potentially 10 soccer teams that can win the FIFA World Cup & 6 teams the RUWC there are only 2 teams currently capable of contesting for the title of best international League team.......and the players from both those teams (bar 1) all play in the Australian Domestic League.
International RL needs to run more comps such as the recent European one on a yearly basis....same for the pacific islands. Only through regular games for emerging nations can the game hope to ever become a true International Sport. I would even bin PNG from the 4 nations.....go back to tri-nations and let the rest play catch up.

I would also sort out, once and for all, the ridiculous country swapping that goes on...Whatever your first passport says on the cover....that's who you play for!

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GF why bother?
Just dont bite.
He got banned on the old user name, Gijou or something (it was a while ago) iirc, so if he carries on getting shown up and resorting to name calling it wont be long before hes back off again.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Dico "GF why bother?
Just dont bite.
He got banned on the old user name, Gijou or something (it was a while ago) iirc, so if he carries on getting shown up and resorting to name calling it wont be long before hes back off again.'"

He writes differently to Gijou.......are you sure? icon_biggrin.gif

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I could be wrong but i'd hedge 50 quid on it

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Dico "I could be wrong but i'd hedge 50 quid on it'"

But he writes me such nice little notes

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hahahahaha ask tb, im sure he'd confirm/deny

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We'd have gotten more in Eden Park.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Conorgiantsfan "We'd have gotten more in Eden Park.'"

even if it WAS raining icon_cool.gif

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I see this thread I started is filling up with all the usual suspects...

lol

Regrettable to see the steady improvement in international rugby league causing people distress...very negative lives they must lead. Real glass half empty types.

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