Don't read too much into enabling and much-shift works being undertaken on any of the sites. Developers have to clear and work the site irrespective of any future development, so this is money they have to spend anyway and is not specific to a development. Also stadiums are not really long-programme builds on this size of project because other than the 'main stand' they are nothing more than steel and pre-cast concrete terrace units, if you start on the main stand first you will have the rest of the ground finished before the main stand fit out is completed.

Signed contracts for building a stadium is what is needed and I don't think any of them, other than Saints, have one of those at the moment!

No they shouldn't , how much ' grace ' do they want

10 years / , twenty ?

Tough titty , I like Wakey and will be sorry for whichever club gets the shove , but that is life in a franchised sport

There is only a 20 % chance that any club will have a stadium ready by then , even Saints and Salford , and the decision is made in June / July , not december

Not a chance in hell , they will only decide that if a SL club implodes financially or they can increase the number in SL because of more SKY revenue , until that happens they wont ' promise ' anything next time

Try ten years or twenty , but who gives a stuff about those clubs

We promise to have a better youth structure by the start of the 2012 season, cross my heart...can we come in please?

I'd have thought, judging by your previous posts, that you think the decision will have been made much earlier than that, then justified in June/July. I hope I'm not misrepresenting you.

No , but they already know which club is going down if nobody gets a stadium started , the only way that can change is for the relevant club to start actual building before the other two and hope they dont start building before decision time

The main point is one side (at least) is going down full stop (as at least Widnes meet all criteria). So as they did to justify putting Cru in they will twist any part of your club to suit their agenda for keeping you in or out! If Widnes get in I can't wait to see how much they change are 'adequate' stadium for the 'pro' list. As Leigh saw they just ignored ground as 'not played 'in'' because it suited. They also did their write ups weeks after so they could manipulate them further.

At Widnes SO'C has made sure from day one we have covered ALL areas knowing full well if one was weak they could exploit it. Wakey side to win academy last year could be seen similar? Built to win, not neccesairily to make SL level.

As for during, all SL clubs agreed to it so have less grounds than any for anysirt of action!

It is silly to assume that people did not read what TRB wrote. Perhaps we understand the process and can read what the RFL actually wrote!

The RFL will ask Savills to indicate whether the stadium new builds or developments will be complete by early Feb 2012. If the answer is no then the 'scoring' wil be done on the current facilities and the 'score' will probably be a poor one. If savilles say yes the scoring will be done on the new facilities. Where has there been any suggestion that the applications will be dismissed?

Can you please expand on this?
How are Wakefield any further forward than Salford?

Yes and that is why Savills are going to assess whether a stadium will be fit to use early Feb 2012 for the start of SL. If they have to be ready for SL games in Feb I assumed they would need to be playing some friendlies there by December 2011.

if none of these clubs are ready to go for Feb 2012 they will all score poorly re facilities. This rules out all the 'the stadium is on the way' ' we will have one soon' cr*p that we heard during the last round.

Say Trinity submit in their application that they intend to play their home games for the 2012 season at Oakwell until their new stadium is ready. They will have satisfied the RFL criteria on the stadium front.