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42169_1366443727.jpg Chorlton RL wrote- "Jonny, for me you hold the mantle of most sensible poster on the VT"
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Yed wrote: "He's like a Kevin Penny on steroids except he's good too"
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| Quote: Saddened! "
What does 'cutting up Australia' entail exactly?'"
Never mind that-what does that mean?
Quote: Saddened! "Sean Long pwned them both.'"
It means either..
a. Typing error.
b. You can use certain terms used in RL but when someone else does you have a go.
c. You think Sean Long is better than Murphy and Johns and obviously havn't got a clue about the game.
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| You can't really compare them, just a few points...
Johns - had to be physically fitter as the game is faster, bigger players, more space at the ptb, hand over after 6th tackle, tackling laws to protect players, tactical of substitutions, full time players, lots of sports/nutrition science to support players
Murphy - part time players, a side can keep the ball for eons, (1966) 4 tackles and then a scrum, space is limited at ptb (5 yard rule), very limited substitutions, no/limited sports/nutrition science (probably ate fish 'n chips and had a pint after training), and standard tactic to counter his genius = knock his bloody head off (little protection from referees)!
(And, btw, for someone who mentioned a player smoking being a rebel in Murphy's day... no way, smoking was mainstream!)
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42169_1366443727.jpg Chorlton RL wrote- "Jonny, for me you hold the mantle of most sensible poster on the VT"
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Yed wrote: "He's like a Kevin Penny on steroids except he's good too"
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"What? What have I said now?" - Starbug 2013
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| Murphy did have a 'tash, always a bonus.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: jonny the leyther "Murphy did have a 'tash, always a bonus.'"
I was undecided until that point!
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| Quote: dally messenger "australian commentators all put johns ahead of both the king and bert.
lewis was a fantastic origin player, the best there ever was or will be
his international record was fantastic too
sadly he didnt achieve much in his career in the ARL competition with a star studded broncos side
indeed the broncos won their first premiership after sacking the king
had lewis come down to sydney when he was younger and won a competition he would have achieved it all.'"
He and Gene Miles had the opportunity to do that in the 80's, they signed with Manly but QRL offered hem a little more to keep them in Qld.
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| Frankly DM, that is crap, your earlier post.
Name 6 decent judges who rate Johns ahead of Lewis...
And Lewis won numerous titles - in Queensland (1979, 1984, 1986) - and cleaned up the best NSW had to offer on numerous occasions at State and club level.
No-one can match Lewis's 1984 season in recent times...
7 out of 10 MOM awards in big games.
Wally Lewis, 1984:-
* Captain and winner Brisbane Premiership Wynnum
* Captain and winner Panasonic Cup Final Combined Brisbane (defeating Sydney semi-finalists Souths, Canterbury (Premiers) and Parramatta (Runner up), then Easts in the final) (Man of Series)
* Captain and Winner Queensland 2-1 (2 MOM awards)
* Captain and Winner Australia 3-0 (1 MOM award)
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42169_1366443727.jpg Chorlton RL wrote- "Jonny, for me you hold the mantle of most sensible poster on the VT"
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Yed wrote: "He's like a Kevin Penny on steroids except he's good too"
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| AND he had a 'tash too!
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| Indeed.
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| Quote: Old Darlin "Frankly DM, that is crap, your earlier post.
Name 6 decent judges who rate Johns ahead of Lewis...
And Lewis won numerous titles - in Queensland (1979, 1984, 1986) - and cleaned up the best NSW had to offer on numerous occasions at State and club level.
No-one can match Lewis's 1984 season in recent times...
7 out of 10 MOM awards in big games.
Wally Lewis, 1984
as i was saying to a mate yesterday the nswrl / ARL was the best club competition in the world
sadly lewis didnt perform in this arena. whether it was age or struggling with a much tougher league he didnt excel
johns was the star player in australian RL for at least 5 years, week in, week out over 26 rounds
he played with an average club in newcastle not the broncos like lewis
the mark of johns was how quickly the club fell away when he retired
the broncos won the title after lewis left
had lewis come to manly in 86 my opinion could be different
johns won a grand final with a punctured lung against the club with the best defence in the history of the game and then johns won another grand final with a busted groin against the best attacking team in the game
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| Quote: dally messenger "australian commentators all put johns ahead of both the king and bert'"
So you're telling us that every Australian Rugby League commentator rates Johns as a better player than Wally Lewis... that's quite a statement
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| Best British Halfbacks I ever saw were Murphy and Millward. Best Australian Halfbacks I ever saw were Lewis and Sterling.
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| Quote: Dunbar "So you're telling us that every Australian Rugby League commentator rates Johns as a better player than Wally Lewis... that's quite a statement'"
tbf maybe 1 in ten would pick lewis.
many of the current commentators have said johns is the best ever.
many players ex and current all referred to johns as the best ever.
heck when austraia beat GB by 40 points in sydney years ago the english players were queing up for his autograph
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
Regards,
Matthew[/quote:3e09qe5x]:23521.jpg |
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| Johns was voted in the Australian and nsw team of the century at half back, voted the number on player in the last 30 years.
Player of the world cup 1995, player of the series 2001.
Three dally m's, one Clive Churchil, 3 mom at origin, 2 golden boots.
Does anyone know how many times he was the dally m half back of the year?
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| One of the things I have been told about Murph is that he was responsible for a number of rule changes as a result of his using the existing rules to his advantage!
Drop goals, head and feed at scrums, options for penalty kicks.....
I am sure some of our older posters could add some depth to this.
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