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| Quote: Jonesy "Thats rubbish mate and you know it.
If Australia lost to England they would go up two gears.
They cruise against England, they take the Kiwis serious.'"
I'm sure the English cricket team felt the same ...................NOT.
I was cheering when we got knocked off by the Kiwi's (mind you I see it as a transition period of international rugby league dominance unlike other Aussie's). To prove my point 60 years ago ENgland /Great Britain were the dominate team and then Australia and now we 're seeing the Kiwi's winning the silverware.
England are in the contest up until the 65th minute it's then that we blow them off the paddock, get that sorted and then look out!
Improve the match fitness the benefit's will come.
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| Quote: Dunbar "So, you don't know anything about the training methods then?
I wonder if Barry will provide more insight, I hate to think you guys are just making things up as you go along'"
You asking me what England's training methods are?
Not good enough I would suggest
Are you offering a job to supervise the training?
If the English training methods were up to "World standards" they would not have been tore a new Bum hole last year in the final.
What was the score again over 80 minutes?
Pathetic is the conclusion.
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| Quote: Ant80 "I'm sure the English cricket team felt the same ...................NOT.
I was cheering when we got knocked off by the Kiwi's (mind you I see it as a transition period of international rugby league dominance unlike other Aussie's). To prove my point 60 years ago ENgland /Great Britain were the dominate team and then Australia and now we 're seeing the Kiwi's winning the silverware.
England are in the contest up until the 65th minute it's then that we blow them off the paddock, get that sorted and then look out!
Improve the match fitness the benefit's will come.'"
You are English, an Aussie would not say that.
What happened in the first game where Australian blew England off the Park and went back to second gear?
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| The toughest game by far that Australia had last year was the first game against New Zealand.
The whole myth about the English Pack would have evaporated in that game.
It was one of the most physical contests in the last several years.
Unlike when England played NZ and it was pretty well rubbish all round.
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| Quote: Jonesy "You are English, an Aussie would not say that.
What happened in the first game where Australian blew England off the Park and went back to second gear?'"
Born in Gosford, New South Wales, Australia and live in Qld
It's part of an Aussie make up to barrack for the under dog and at the moment England and New Zealand (mind you it makes it easier to go for them when my grand mother is a kiwi) are the underdog's
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| Tony Smith is a fantastic coach; we just dont have the players. It is that simple.
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| its the backs that will struggle.the pack will at the very least match the aussies.
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| Quote: Jonesy "You asking me what England's training methods are?
Not good enough I would suggest
Are you offering a job to supervise the training?
If the English training methods were up to "World standards" they would not have been tore a new Bum hole last year in the final.
What was the score again over 80 minutes?
Pathetic is the conclusion.'"
Why are you coming to the conclusion that England's training methods are not good enough though?
If Usain Bolt and another athlete used the same training methods and facilities, there is every chance that Bolt would still be the quicker athlete
To suggest that because England lost a game that everything about their coaching and preparation is not good enough is just lazy, you still haven't stated what is specifically wrong with the English training methods - there is nothing wrong with admitting that you don't know something
Maybe Barry will know more as he was the one who originally stated that the English training methods were not good enough
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| Quote: Dico "Tony Smith is a fantastic coach; we just dont have the players. It is that simple.'"
You think?
He has got to be the least confident bloke I have ever seen in front of the cameras too.
He cant look anyone in the eye either
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| Quote: Dunbar "Why are you coming to the conclusion that England's training methods are not good enough though?
If Usain Bolt and another athlete used the same training methods and facilities, there is every chance that Bolt would still be the quicker athlete
To suggest that because England lost a game that everything about their coaching and preparation is not good enough is just lazy, you still haven't stated what is specifically wrong with the English training methods - there is nothing wrong with admitting that you don't know something
Maybe Barry will know more as he was the one who originally stated that the English training methods were not good enough'"
Englands training methods are shocking.
You have a physical performance director who didn't have a clue when he did a similar role in the NRL.
The so called elite training manager doesnt get on with him, nor with 2 other trainers. One thinks it should be all weights weights weights, the other thinks its all about yoga.
The so called national coach hasn't got the cojones to stand up and stamp his mark on the side or over rule the 'elite training manager'
Even the bloke who is supposedly the teams nutritionalist has got about as much idea about sports nutrition as I have about putting new brake discs on a VW Golf.
England RL as a 'team' are a shambles.. from the ground roots upwards
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| Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Englands training methods are shocking.
You have a physical performance director who didn't have a clue when he did a similar role in the NRL.
The so called elite training manager doesnt get on with him, nor with 2 other trainers. One thinks it should be all weights weights weights, the other thinks its all about yoga.
The so called national coach hasn't got the cojones to stand up and stamp his mark on the side or over rule the 'elite training manager'
Even the bloke who is supposedly the teams nutritionalist has got about as much idea about sports nutrition as I have about putting new brake discs on a VW Golf.
England RL as a 'team' are a shambles.. from the ground roots upwards'"
You could have saved some time by just saying you don't know
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| Quote: Dunbar "You could have saved some time by just saying you don't know'"
But thats just it.
I DO know.
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| Quote: Barry_McKenzie "But thats just it.
I DO know.'"
All you have said about the coaching is "One thinks it should be all weights weights weights, the other thinks its all about yoga"
The rest was just speculation about the personalities involved and a strange analogy about changing break discs on a car
Just give me one or two specific examples of where the England team training methods demonstrate a weakness as you stated - that will settle things once and for all
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| Quote: Dunbar "All you have said about the coaching is "One thinks it should be all weights weights weights, the other thinks its all about yoga"
The rest was just speculation about the personalities involved and a strange analogy about changing break discs on a car
Just give me one or two specific examples of where the England team training methods demonstrate a weakness as you stated - that will settle things once and for all'"
Apart from the ones I've already mentioned?
Don't you think that a power struggle between the coaching staff is a pretty good example?
None of it was speculation either my friend.
Trust me.
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| Centre, Scrum Half and Hooker are the three main areas of concern IMO.
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