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| 1 Featherstone Rovers 1,752 (2009 - 1,809) -57
2 Leigh Centurions 2,113 (2009 - 1,984) +129
3 Halifax R.L.F.C. 2,364 (2009 - 2,325) +39
4 Barrow Raiders 1,859 (2009 - 2,280) -421
5 Widnes Vikings 3,072 (2009 - 3,80icon_cool.gif -736
6 Toulouse Olympique XIII 1,350 (2009 - 2,372) -1,022
7 Batley Bulldogs 1,661 (2009 - 895) +766
8 Whitehaven 1,284 (2009 - 1,670) -386
9 Sheffield Eagles 1,597 (2009 - 1,174) +423
10 Dewsbury Rams 1,172 (2009 - 1,265 in C1) -93
11 Keighley Cougars RLFC 1,126 (2009 - 933 in C1) +193
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| Shocked that Fevs crowds have slightly declined despite their start to the season. I suspect Leigh can get as high as 2750 average gate by the end of the season, with a good run in the cup and play-offs. In SL, I think we could get to 5,000 average relatively easily, based on local derbies at least. We would get 10k for Wigan for example, and Wire, Saints would bring a lot. The clear answer is to relegate Salford, Quins and Wakey and promote Leigh, Widnes and Halifax. More crowds and overall better stadiums...! But of course Leigh have to tick a box yet!
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| Well done Batley there crowds are excellent compared to last year. Shame to see widnes and barrow's fans on the decline but there still pretty healthy figures for the championship. Also nice to see Sheffield crowds are up quite alot
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| Widnes crowds will continue to drop as they have ticked a magic box and the chairman sees no point in over funding a dead horse that the championship becomes when you tick in year one
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| That is enough proof that Widnes should be in super league over Cas, Wakey, Salford, Quins and Crusaders for me.
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| Castleford have consistently managed higher crowds than Widnes though they're attendances this year aren't that impressive.
I don't think Leigh or Halifax could match Wakefield's crowds on a regular basis, to be honest.
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| Wakey having 1 season in 15 in SL would be nowhere near Leighs gates, same for Cas, Hudds, Salford.
Leigh/Widnes/Fax/Oldham have as much to offer as Cas/Wakey/Hudds/HKR, when you consider P&R its only really those clubs that would be affected
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| Quote: meast "
so potentially they would average that again but with the recent success of warrington and the possible re-emergence of wigan how many floating fans will be lost to widnes from the halton/runcorn area?
not forgetting that north wales was usually a stronghold for widnes too, if the crusaders take off how will that affect widnes' ambitions? they need ( and should) to get a license in the next round if we are brutally honest'"
The relative recent success of those clubs could quite easilly help draw fans to Widnes , local rivalry can be very positive , if you look at the Quins situation , would they benifit from another london club in SL , as many people have suggested
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| Widnes would get great crowds in super league, they would be like another Hull KR!
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| Quote: meast "widnes average crowds in super league for their last 4 years
2002 - 6,510
2003 - 6,511
2004 - 6,153
2005 - 6,794
so potentially they would average that again but with the recent success of warrington and the possible re-emergence of wigan how many floating fans will be lost to widnes from the halton/runcorn area?
not forgetting that north wales was usually a stronghold for widnes too, if the crusaders take off how will that affect widnes' ambitions? they need ( and should) to get a license in the next round if we are brutally honest'"
I guess it will depend on how well we would do. We wouldn't be a very attractive proposition if we were getting battered by all of the other sides in the north west. If we can compete though and re-ignite the local rivalry then I'm sure the crowds will come back - we got 6,000 just a few years ago against Wigan in the Challenge Cup. Based on our previous stint in SL, we could probably rely on a minimum of 6,000 average in our 1st season and see how we do over that 1st year. A team's 1st year in SL is probably not only the hardest, but possibly the most important in attracting the crowds.
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| Quote: Starbug "The relative recent success of those clubs could quite easilly help draw fans to Widnes , local rivalry can be very positive , if you look at the Quins situation , would they benifit from another london club in SL , as many people have suggested'"
Quins are struggling badly to compete and draw support in SL so adding another club in the area would make it even less likely that either would succeed. Simply having a rival wouldn't instantly give you a sufficient number of local players (many northern players don't seem to want to relocate) to make two sides that would be better than 13th and 14th out of 14. A better option would be to drop Quins to the Championship and have a new rival club formed at that level then let the two of them develop (hopefully simultaneously) to a level where they could then gain entry to SL for reasons other than geography. If there was an approach from an investor looking to create a SL club (and only interested if starting at SL level) in the London area then it would be better to get said backer to invest in Quins (who need a new majority shareholder) even if it meant relocating them to his preferred location. Until the sport has strong enough roots in the south east to support two clubs at SL level (it presently struggles to maintain one) then we cannot entertain the idea of having two in SL.
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| Quote: Sheffieldliam "Well done Batley there crowds are excellent compared to last year. Shame to see widnes and barrow's fans on the decline but there still pretty healthy figures for the championship. Also nice to see Sheffield crowds are up quite alot
BALLACKS and you know it
Sheff's figures are distorted due to the new game at the lane & Barrow have only had a few homes games and not vs anyone who brings a fair few besides 30/40 if that.
try basing figures after half the season not the opening few games etc.
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| Quote: vikings 4 ever "I guess it will depend on how well we would do. We wouldn't be a very attractive proposition if we were getting battered by all of the other sides in the north west. If we can compete though and re-ignite the local rivalry then I'm sure the crowds will come back - we got 6,000 just a few years ago against Wigan in the Challenge Cup. Based on our previous stint in SL, we could probably rely on a minimum of 6,000 average in our 1st season and see how we do over that 1st year. A team's 1st year in SL is probably not only the hardest, but possibly the most important in attracting the crowds.'"
Barrow had just under 7000 (total sell out) last year in the CC at home to Wigan, I believe our att maximum allowed had beed raised to 7500 based on everything going as planned on that game.
We took 4000 to a final last year, our crowds have rose every year in the last four (we expect a smaller rise this year) We are self supporting and have made no financial losses in the last few seasons
BARROW RLFC for SL
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| Quote: maurice "Wakey having 1 season in 15 in SL would be nowhere near Leighs gates, same for Cas, Hudds, Salford.
Leigh/Widnes/Fax/Oldham have as much to offer as Cas/Wakey/Hudds/HKR, when you consider P&R its only really those clubs that would be affected'"
Maybe potentially but im not so sure, leigh failed to get an average of 5000 in their one season of super league,fair enough it wasn't very succesful and the fans deserted them towards the end,but cas have averaged between 6-7000 for most parts,huddersfield are around the 8000 mark again i cant see leigh, fax or oldham comin anywhere near that unless they become succesful within 5 years, only widnes have the potential to equal castleford or huddersfields average
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| didnt featherstone just get promoted?
pretty good going if they are coming 1st now in the championship.
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