Such as?

At last some sense

He is almost 21 and has never played a first grade game. Until he proves himself he is no better than a junior at Wigan, Leeds etc. He wasnt exactly renowned as a 16 year old before going to Australia and wasnt even at a Super League club. Despite this people automatically assume that he is better than our own academy players never mind established ones.

I would bet that some of the people that are raving about him havent actually seen him play and are just jumping on the bandwaggon. Others think that he is some kind of superstar based on a few grainy interent clips.

Lets face it if he can catch, run, tackle reasonably and isn't an idiot he would be first choice for England at fullback. We have no one anywhere near the quality of the Australians.

Saddened what I meant was after not playing a first grade game how can he be in front of people like Briscoe, Owen (imo englands next fullback), or even dare I say it Paul flippin Wellens.
I've no doubt he'll go on to become a good player but giving it mouth like that he'll get a good slap by those 'park footballers'.

Unless you've seen more of him then the rest of us who knows!

I think thats the point really. Just because the lad plays for an NRL club and is English we all presume he's going to be a blinder when in truth he may not cut the mustard for Melbourne and be released to play park rugby somewhere.

Hopefully he'll be as good as the hype and will actually want to turn out for England but as things stand he's behind about 15 players for the England fullback jersey.

I've seen a lot of him and I'll see more of him in the reserves this season for the Storm.

A lot of people wouldn't be going on about him here in oz if it wasn't for Matty Johns talking him up in the U20s Grand Final on telly last year. And continually pointing out that he's a pom and how good he is and how he'll get into a GB side etc. etc

Unfortunately this is all to help the hype surrounding the Toyota Cup U20s comp over here.

I'll keep you up to date on how he's going in the NSW Cup if you like. Because that's where he'll be playing!

Whats your opinion on him?

The real deal or overhyped? I'd guess you think the latter going off that post.

Michael Jennings is 21, as a comparison.

Quote: Saddened! "Apparantly nailed on to move to Wigan on a long term deal with the option of returning to Melbourne. He'll be a superstar.'" He's a massive Bulls fan & he admits he would like to return and play in Super League at some point and would "love" to play for the Bulls but, with two years remaining on his Storm deal, is in no hurry. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6107457.jp HTH

Quote: Saddened! "Apparantly nailed on to move to Wigan on a long term deal with the option of returning to Melbourne. He'll be a superstar.'" He's a massive Bulls fan & he admits he would like to return and play in Super League at some point and would "love" to play for the Bulls but, with two years remaining on his Storm deal, is in no hurry. www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6107457.jp HTH

I don't understand what your comparison's about TBH.

Very good player. He was their player of the year in U20s. But seriously. This means nothing at the end of the day. Wait til he plays against the grown ups. Then decide.

Being in Australia where everything is talked up, you have to take a back seat and analyse for yourself.

Like last night, most Souths fans wouldn't have seen Burgess play before. But he's a hero of theirs already as the media have made it so. Poor bugger, but he'll handle it.

Michael Jennings is a similar age and is already playing Test RL. Widdop is being talked-up despite not even playing a first team game.

Right got it.

Who's talking him up? Is it people over there who haven't seen much of him? Or over here where people haven't seen much of him?