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Quote: Blackandwhiteviking "Why should leighton samiels involvement impact the attendance? Was this the case before?'"

YES
Bridgend rfc had money problems they asked true die hard supporters to dig deep and buy a 3 yr season ticket most did 1 yr down the line LS came in people with 2yrs left on season tickets he wouldnt honour so that peeved supporters off
lost about 500 supporters
then came the celtic warriors crowds of 1500 to 4000 most games
what did he do got rid of them peeved off more supporters
so when CC started up why do you think people in bridgend/s wales dont trust him and he got no support nowt to do with CC one man LS
the new team thats starting up will have nothing to do with him and never will so imo i would say the new team will get an anything from 400 upwards a game but i thing about 700/1000 would be more like it
have said all the long its not if he will walk away it when like he always have
was the CC marketed NOT MUCH
will the new team YES 150%
will one man be involved NO

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Bit of a joke, they can't sustain one team, now they want to add another? Sounds like politics to me and I would suggest the RFL tell them to get their act sorted out in Sth Wales before they consider any thing else from that part of the world.

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icon_smile.gif It's brilliant news that all that great effort in South Wales will not be wasted. Any club name and Website yet? I for one wish them all the success and will definately buy a replica strip when available.

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I remember our first trip to Bridgend a couple of years ago. On speaking to quite a few locals tehy all stated that they would never support a team that L.S. was part of. Due to the bad feeling towards him from his past endeavors. Hopefully this could be the making of RL in south Wales. The locals no longer have a reason not to support the local team. Lets see how this unfolds. How can a new team not be a good thing for RL?

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Quote: JB Down Under "Bit of a joke, they can't sustain one team, now they want to add another? Sounds like politics to me and I would suggest the RFL tell them to get their act sorted out in Sth Wales before they consider any thing else from that part of the world.'"

Not bothered to read the last few pages, then?

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Quote: JB Down Under "Bit of a joke, they can't sustain one team, now they want to add another? Sounds like politics to me and I would suggest the RFL tell them to get their act sorted out in Sth Wales before they consider any thing else from that part of the world.'"

At SL level yes, but they have a ready made C1 team of Welsh players from the old Crusaders reserves and a ready made fan base of disgruntled Crusaders fans. Should be easily sustainable at C1 and hopefully in 3-5 years they could move up to the Championship with locals, though only if they can viably do this.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Blackandwhiteviking "Why should leighton samiels involvement impact the attendance? Was this the case before?'"


he was rather unpopular in those parts after the demise of the celtic warriors ru team.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Its great news that we ould have another new club soon in south wales, imagine that alot of crusaders fans will switch to the new club which means that along with the fact there will be a good few crusaders lads in the reserves willing to make the switch, they can hit the ground running for players and fans.

On the negative side this does make the crusaders move to north wales seem certain which is a shame, but if both clubs can come out of this stronger that can only be good for rl.

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Quote: pyeman "Its great news that we ould have another new club soon in south wales, imagine that alot of crusaders fans will switch to the new club which means that along with the fact there will be a good few crusaders lads in the reserves willing to make the switch, they can hit the ground running for players and fans.

On the negative side this does make the crusaders move to north wales seem certain which is a shame, but if both clubs can come out of this stronger that can only be good for rl.'"


But Crusaders wouldn't if they moved north and as suggested on here, lose fans and young players to a new team?

I'm all for a new team in Championship 1, I wish them well.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: AJ Viking "But Crusaders wouldn't if they moved north and as suggested on here, lose fans and young players to a new team?

I'm all for a new team in Championship 1, I wish them well.'"


There is of course that worry, but i will see what the new plans are before i prejudge them.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



What this would mean is that the Welsh SL club will only last another 2 seasons at most , unless the backers are willing to tip in a huge amount of money

When the problems of the Crusaders first came to light I was quite happy for the RFL to guarantee their continued participation in SL even to the point of the RFL taking ' ownership ' of the club if neccessary and financing it for 2 or possibly even 5 years , I would only have accepted this if they had remained in South Wales

However if a new Championship club was to be set up in that area I would prefer that club to get help from the RFL to continue the development work already started

A Wrexham based organisation would have to stand alone if support was to be given to the South , IMO

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Derwent "This is good news.

I hope this time they are allowed to develop at their own pace and grow organically and the same mistakes aren't made again. If they're a good enough club then they'll get to SL eventually. Lets develop South Wales naturally instead of artificially this time.

Though you can guarantee that if they have a half decent start in CC1 then some people will be starting threads about how they must be put into SL in 2012

That is the main point really. Celtic did not get bad crowds this year considering they are a new team and won only one home game! If they had seom success could they not get up to around the 6,000 mark in time? Making them just as much of an asset to super league as Wakey.

Expansion is important we all know that, but no one has a clear answer about the whole issue really.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "That is the main point really. Celtic did not get bad crowds this year considering they are a new team and won only one home game! If they had seom success could they not get up to around the 6,000 mark in time? Making them just as much of an asset to super league as Wakey.

Expansion is important we all know that, but no one has a clear answer about the whole issue really.'"


You just had to do it didn't you , you couldn't help yourself could you , Albert bloody Rosenfeld is back icon_wink.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Starbug "You just had to do it didn't you , you couldn't help yourself could you , Albert bloody Rosenfeld is back
Sorry sir. icon_lol.gif

In all seriousness though some people on here need to get a grip and look at the bigger picture before they post. Thats why I don't mind you icon_wink.gif

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icon_smile.gif Who knows 5 years + we could see a SL Welsh Derby match, North v South eh? Would be a mouering prospect, never say never?

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