I don't think Gleeson is finished at international level. At 29 he certainly isn't past it and still has a few more years left in him. We are starved of some experience in the backline (especially if we are to go with Eastmond and Tomkins) and so he would be a very useful asset in that aspect. He was in some decent form coming into the play offs and had his best game in Wigan colours against Hull KR in the play offs where I think he proved that, on his day, Gleeson is still one of if not the best English centre in Super League. But the main asset he has brought to Wigan that I think can bring to England is his defense. Tim Smith was the worst defender I have ever seen in Wigan colours, possibly one of the worst in Super League but when Gleeson arrived he really helped tighten that aspect of our game and with New Zealand having such a powerful backline we really need a top defender out wide and Gleeson would bring that. I can understand that people may argue he has had his chance and let's look to the future but with Lee Smith we are hardly looking to the future as he is heading off to Union. At the end of the day we need to put out the best squad possible. Martin Gleeson is better than Tony Clubb, Chris Bridge and Lee Smith IMO. I understand we must look to the World Cup where Gleeson most likely wont be included but the World Cup is not till 2013 where we might see some new talent emerge in the centre spot like we have seen with Michael Shenton. So with that in mind I would pick Gleeson.

Who would Sinfield pass to then?

Himself?

First of all any centre that can make such a big contribution to keeping the aussies scorless down his side is doing a very good job in defence (and before you trot out that the aussies ignored his side, he made more tackles than anyone in the backline, nearly double his nearest rival tompkins, who was also on shentons side of the field). He also forced two knock ons and pushed a player into touch (which led to us scoring a try) once again any player who can do those sort of things against the ockers is upto international standards of defence. As for attack how many times has he been put into space in the last few games? he is largely starved of the ball, and when he does get it the defence was already on top of him, despite this he was still on of our top meter makers in the backline (only s. briscoe doing better), many of those meters having to be made from running from dummy half as it was one of the only ways he could get near the ball. On the only occasion he was put into a decent amount of space yesterday he was hauled down just short of the aussie line. He didnt get to be the top scoring centre in sl by having a 'non-existant' attack, but in order for him to score tries or set up his winger (another player largely starved of the ball due poor tactics) you have to get the ball out to him and you need to do so when the opposing defence isnt already on top of him.

Tony smith has a number of selection problems, left centre is not one of them.

Shenton and Hall looked solid enough, which at the moment is the best we can hope for. The right side is a real mess though. I didn't think Briscoe did too badly, although I think Fox deserves a chance.

I do understand the comments about Gleeson, but what we really need is some size and athleticism out wide. That's why I would have gone for Pryce and Senior. I do understand not picking Senior, but the same rationale I'd use for that would automatically rule Smith out of the equation. On top of going to Union, that lad won't be a class centre if he plays there for ten years.

Lets all pray that Watkins at Leeds and the one or two other young propsects knocking around can actually develop.

The more I think about it, the more I also agree we need to leave McGuire out. He p*sses me off because he has the raw materials. He can pass. he can kick. He is elusive. But at international level his decision-making and execution under pressure have generally been abysmal.

I was concerned about Shenton before the tournament but he has done more than enough to keep his place & give optimism for the future. Physically he reminds me of a young Keith Senior. Smith I was more concerned about as it is not his natural position. Those fears were justified, play him on the wing or FB if needs be, but I think Fox has been the best GB winger for a couple of years & would have him in. Right centre? Out of those available, discounting Senior, I would probably plumb for Pryce as well but worry he could be caught out positionally.

As crazy as it sounds Keith Senior is still the best home ground impact centre wev'e got available.

Who else has the size and try-scoring/setting up ability?

Shenton scored more tries than senior this year so he certainly has that, last year he had more assists than senior (when he had a better winger outside him) so he can certainly do that well too.

Correct.

Someone who has to face their own try line to pass the ball out to the right should NEVER be in a ball handling position at international level.

McGuire sucked but Ive been saying that for years, if smith was to choose one of the leeds halfbacks it should have been burrow.

Briscoe at FB has added nothing to England in attack, he never beats a man running the ball back and his positioning is suspect not to mention his tackling poor.

Lee Smith believes his own hype now and is a poorer player for it.

Morley and Peacock were poor.

Peacock is not a Captain and never will be.

Next week [ucould [/ube embarassing.

But then again it couldn't.

why dont we just do what the aussies do then and stick a ball handler at full back, then we can play a big 13, eastmond to full back, he would always break the first tackle and get us on the front foot, as for the centre i would have pryce along with fox.

I think that just about sums it up.

If Peacock was a captain don't you think he would be a club captain!!

McGuire and Lee Smith should both be dropped and never under any circumstances be considered again for international selection.

We should say thanks very much for your input over the last few years to Morley and Peacock but we need to move on from picking these 2 - they were both very poor and overshadowed by younger hungrier players on Saturday.