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Quote: Marsdengiant "A large proportion of Sky money goes to SL clubs. As it should. The remaining sky money goes into RL as a whole. It goes into a pot that provides funds for non SL clubs. So non SL clubs get sky money...live with it
Ahh ok. Thought you knew the exact figures.

But your just presuming this money is from Sky? and not from other sources? Grand Finals, Challenge Cup finals etc?

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Quote: Roary "No. Totally different club. Despite the fact they cling onto the records of the old club.

Oldham Bears went bust in 1997.

The new club, Oldham RLFC 1997 Ltd, was formed afterwards and entered into the lowest tier of the RFL. They almost made it to Super League a few years back, losing in the Grand Final to Widnes.'"


I'm almost certain Oldham Bears played in that extended world club challenge that was held back in 1997

I seem to remeber they were thumped by a massive score by someone....not sure who when or where though

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Quote: pyeman "They dont get sky money though, not in the same way that sl clubs do they are given money to spend on certain things but not money to spend however they want (on playing sqaud or youth structures), even then it is a pitifully small amount compared to the money sl clubs are given, without which most sl clubs would struggle, more still would struggle without a sugar daddy(something alot easier to attract in sl, take huddersfield for example without a rich benefactor and help from the rfl they would be languishing in the lower leagues now instead of having one of the brightest futures of any british rl club), how many rl clubs in britain are actually self sufficient ?

If rl is actually going to move forward we are going to need more clubs, whilst we seem to be heading towards less, if rl cant support the teams in the heartlands enough for them to survive then we might as well forget expansion altogether, if we support expansion clubs over the heartlands or vice versa we will be doomed to failure.

Yes many players from lower league clubs areas will come through sl academies mainly because the sl academies can offer far more money as they are given over a million a year by sky, have far greater sponsership opportunities, find it easier to attract sugar daddies, and get better travelling support. sl clubs will then let go all but the best of these youngsters, who end up playing in the nl's, maybe even for there local club who would have loved to have the chance to develop these youngsters but were outbid by sl rivals.

As for dual registration well we will have to see how it affects rl because no one on here can claim they know the effects of something that hasnt happened yet.'"


So part time teams that are rarely televised get far less SL money than ft teams regularly broadcast. This is true of all professional sports. Lower tier RU and football clubs get buttons compared with the top flight clubs.

Also the top clubs in any sport have more money and tend to have better academies. Only a moron would think that taking £20K out of the Leeds development budget and giving it to say Hunslet or bramley would improve the quality of players coming through. The idea that you can develop elite athletes on a pittance is nonsense.

The chip on the shoulder of some RL fans about 'sugar daddies' is sadly all too predictable. These guys are fans who love the game and put their own cash in. Good on them. Once again this is true of many sports. Oldham are now struggling because a wealthy local backer wants out while in barrow there is a resurrenge because of a local wealthy backer. Welcome to reality.

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Quote: Starbug "Link ?

You dont have a clue how clubs operate at that level , most dont need F/T CEO's and most definatley are not going to get somebody with millions to throw away on board just because they have a ' marketing ' executive

The mandatory games might continue but nobody cares to watch u 18's , be they Championship fans or SL fans , so what help exactly is that

So if these players didn't go to the Chamnpionship clubs where exactly do you expect them to go ?

Correct , so the answer to the problem is ?

Since you are so clever'"


I am sure that your post makes sense inside your head. In the real world it is incoherent. icon_biggrin.gif

The problem is that many clubs do not have a clue how to run themselves. Failing to pay their taxes or hiding behind CVAs - expecting someone else to pick up the tab for their incompetence.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "So part time teams that are rarely televised get far less SL money than ft teams regularly broadcast. This is true of all professional sports. Lower tier RU and football clubs get buttons compared with the top flight clubs.

Also the top clubs in any sport have more money and tend to have better academies. Only a moron would think that taking £20K out of the Leeds development budget and giving it to say Hunslet or bramley would improve the quality of players coming through. The idea that you can develop elite athletes on a pittance is nonsense.

The chip on the shoulder of some RL fans about 'sugar daddies' is sadly all too predictable. These guys are fans who love the game and put their own cash in. Good on them. Once again this is true of many sports. Oldham are now struggling because a wealthy local backer wants out while in barrow there is a resurrenge because of a local wealthy backer. Welcome to reality.'"


So you like the RFL see the only way clubs can survive and prosper is to ' snare ' a ' sugar daddy '

If that is the case then the sport will never prosper , and not just below SL , sustainability is what we need , more matches , better income from existing ' streams ' and most of all more ' pay through the gate ' fans

Clueless

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Quote: a.n Other "Ahh ok. Thought you knew the exact figures.

But your just presuming this money is from Sky? and not from other sources? Grand Finals, Challenge Cup finals etc?'"


Did you think that? really? Gosh.

I am not presuming anything - though you need to think otherwise. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Marsdengiant "I am sure that your post makes sense inside your head. In the real world it is incoherent.
Ah the old ' if I pretend I dont understand your post I can avoid arguing the points of it ' excuse

How clever of you

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Quote: Stealth Comic "Something definitely needs to be done about the number of games being played.

Between June 1st and August 8th Cougars only played 5 games.

I'd bring the 6 decent teams up from Championship 1 into Championship and then put the remaining 4 in Conference National and have promotion from there to championship.'"


Blackpool & London Skolars had home games in nearly 2 months, how the hell can anyone plan a business round a garbidge fixture list like that? Endless blank weekends with no games in the best summer weather, what a farce the RFL fixture planning is.

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Quote: spooneryork "Blackpool & London Skolars had home games in nearly 2 months, how the hell can anyone plan a business round a garbidge fixture list like that? Endless blank weekends with no games in the best summer weather, what a farce the RFL fixture planning is.'"


Ask Marsdengiant , he'll tell you it is all the clubs fault

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Quote: Marsdengiant "
Also the top clubs in any sport have more money and tend to have better academies. Only a moron would think that taking £20K out of the Leeds development budget and giving it to say Hunslet or bramley would improve the quality of players coming through. The idea that you can develop elite athletes on a pittance is nonsense.
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Except Huddersfield , they just use w1g4ns cast offs

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Quote: Marsdengiant "Did you think that? really? Gosh.

I am not presuming anything - though you need to think otherwise. icon_wink.gif

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