Its not just his preperation though. He overlooks the centre who has been head and shoulders above everyone else in Keith Senior, because hes looking to the future, but then includes Lee Smith!!!

The guy is a fcking idiot

Who else could do a better job - Karl Harrison - that well known handyman who really did make difference at Salford!!!!

It is not about the coach it is about lack of quality players - our back line is a joke - their are teams in the NRL with better backlines than ours

sinfield's only possible benefit to the side is his kicking. his kicking last night was gash. if he plays again smith is somehow a bigger tool than i thought.

moore didn't offer enough to start over roby and if roby can do 80 then he has to go. some of his passing from acting half was head high.

we need 3 big lads on the bench thats for sure its our strongest area.

no idea what to do about fullback, briscoe's honest enough but seemingly doesn't give enough going forward at this level.

shenton and smith did they make a break or slip a pass all night?

the half backs were relatively anonymous, tomkins should start but wont

Smith
briscoe
shenton
ellis
hall
tompkins
eastmond
graham
roby
Morley
peacock
burgess
sinfield

Westwood
crabtree
carvell
mcguire

You are right, more than half of them.

Are you kidding, not as an impact replacement, Crabtree is one of the best impact subs in SL. And for starters i class Westwood as a 2nd rower and Crabtree as a prop, and we need 2 big props coming off the bench against the Aussies and Kiwis. To have Roby, Graham, Eastmond and Crabtree coming off the bench would provide great impact.

England CANNOT put a team out that will beat the Aussies!!!

As the current systems in Europe are unlikely to change then the situation will continue.

Crabtree will be found out by Oz and the Kiwis.
Australia would be licking their lips in anticipation if he gets on the field.
He will be more of a liability than an asset trust me.

hes a liability at super league level. but people have been so obsessed with him playing for england since he broke through, just because hes tall

Briscoe
Fox
Ellis
Smith
Hall
Tomkins
Eastmond
Morley
Roby
Graham
Peacock
Burgess
Sinfield

Westwood
McGuire
Carvell
Wilkin? Is he in the squad?

The problem that England have is that we dont have enough quality players that are international class, the years when we had Schofield, Lydon, Robinson, Offiah, Newlove etc in our backlines and then you look at last nights backline, to be honest none of them could touch any of the aforementioned, and the likes of Shenton, T Briscoe and Smith are they international class? They certainly dont send shivers down Aussie spines, unlike the Aussie backline that looks on paper to be really frightening and there missing Folau.

Shenton looked out of his depth last night.

As for Sinfield, the guy is a waste of space at International level, we just carry him for his kicking.

As for McGuire, he shouldnt be included based on last nights performance, he is a support player at best, ok his kicking game isnt bad, but he isnt International class and never will be. It's a joke that Burrow isnt in the squad, yet McGuire is.

The lack of depth in England is a real worry.
Not only the backs
Peacock and Morley are past their best, Roby is getting worse where is the depth pushing through?

How biased are you?

Eastmond is untested at fullback and you want him to take on Australia?

No tomkins, anywhere? Not even on the bench? Are you mad?

Roby playing 80 mins? WESTWOOD????

I'm glad you're not picking the team.

1. Smith
2. Briscoe
3. Eastmond
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Myler
8. Morley
9. Moore
10. Graham
11. Peacock
12. Burgess
13. Sinfield

14. Roby
15. Ellis
16. Carvell
17. Crabtree