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Playing for Leeds you dont get paid as much as you might elsewhere but you do get some things money cannot buy, for some thats enough but for others it isnt

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Quote: J. Willard Gibbs "I'm not aware of a true open market in [iany[/i sphere of business.'"


im not aware of any other industry that limits what one business can spend on its employess on what its competitors can afford

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Quote: SmokeyTA "so they deserve exactly this amount, and also more, strange!'"


Different clubs will value them differently and therefore offer to pay them different amounts. There is no absolute value that anyone deserves for their work, simply the amount they can demand.

Leeds pay them what they deserve, what they are worth to Leeds. Other clubs may be willing to pay them more. They are free to move to those other clubs if they so wish. That they choose not to is their decision, their choice to put more value on playing with Leeds than simply their salary.

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Quote: Dunbar "I guess the key question here is, where does the sport of Rugby League get this money that the players 'deserve'?

I absolutely believe that Rugby League players are the most dedicated athletes on the planet and I wonder what Peacock and Sinfield feel when seeing Premier league players on £200k a week

The problem is the sport cannot afford to pay the players more than the sport earns - we have to live within our means the same way as any organisation that wants to remain solvent does

The Cap may not be paying the players what they deserve but it is keeping the sport alive'"


Nail on the head with an extremely heavy hammer.

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Quote: Dunbar "I guess the key question here is, where does the sport of Rugby League get this money that the players 'deserve'?

I absolutely believe that Rugby League players are the most dedicated athletes on the planet and I wonder what Peacock and Sinfield feel when seeing Premier league players on £200k a week

The problem is the sport cannot afford to pay the players more than the sport earns - we have to live within our means the same way as any organisation that wants to remain solvent does

The Cap may not be paying the players what they deserve but it is keeping the sport alive'"


no the problem is keeping CEOs in jobs they arent up to, if they cant run their business in a sustainable manner they should be allowed to fail

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Quote: SmokeyTA "surely if leeds are paying them less than they deserve, there is scope for teams to pay them exactly what they deserve and it still be impossible to put together a team of the quality of this Leeds team,

in other words, it is impossible to put together a team as good as this Leeds one without expecting players to 'pay' for the chance to be in a champion side!

what a great advert for the game that is, come play rugby league, if your good we wont pay you what you deserve'"
Or we could just let wage bills spiral like it has in football, and we can all spend fifty quid each to watch our teams play, while the smaller clubs go bust as a result of trying to keep up with the big boys.

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Quote: hopie4ever "Playing for Leeds you dont get paid as much as you might elsewhere but you do get some things money cannot buy, for some thats enough but for others it isnt'"


Yes, but the whole point is that these things need not be mutually exclusive.

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Quote: Starbug "So why doesn't he go and play RU ?'"
probably because he isnt suited to it, maybe he has never been offered the chance

maybe he is prepared to make that sacrifice, if he is great, good on him, but thats his personal decision on whats best for him

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Quote: littlerich "Nail on the head with an extremely heavy hammer.'"



Maybe that's the case for tinpot clubs, not for the big boys.

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Quote: XBrettKennyX "It does indeed seem that way, well for the moment at least.


Well apart from Lee Smith who has gone...........who's next?

Here's a thought, scrap the CC, pay the players their open market value and they might stay together for longer. Surely it cannot be that simple.....I must be missing something eh?'"


Yes, you are missing something - in fact you are missing an awful lot

Luckily, Richard Lewis isn't and I am very thankful for that

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Smokey stop confusing them with common sense. They haven't a leg to stand on and they know it.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "

maybe an offering of the same wage would have kept him in RL,'"


We don't have as much money as other sports. This is unfair on professional RL players, but life isn't fair. Better to recognise this than bankrupt the sport, either financially or as a competitive spectacle, in a Quixotic attempt to right that wrong.

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Quote: SBR "Different clubs will value them differently and therefore offer to pay them different amounts. There is no absolute value that anyone deserves for their work, simply the amount they can demand.

Leeds pay them what they deserve, what they are worth to Leeds. Other clubs may be willing to pay them more. They are free to move to those other clubs if they so wish. That they choose not to is their decision, their choice to put more value on playing with Leeds than simply their salary.'"


but they dont, the are paid what leeds are allowed to spend,

they arent paid their value to leeds, they are paid what leeds can afford under an arbitrary cap set purely to limit the amount they can earn

if the SC didnt do this we wouldnt bother having it, if it didnt stop players seeking their true worth it wouldnt be a salary cap would it?

you cant have a salary cap which doesnt cap salaries

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Quote: Mild Rover "We don't have as much money as other sports. This is unfair on professional RL players, but life isn't fair. Better to recognise this than bankrupt the sport, either financially or as a competitive spectacle, in a Quixotic attempt to right that wrong.'"


why would it bankrupt the spor, do you not trust your CEO to run your club in a professional manner?

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Quote: Therailwayendisuponus. "Or we could just let wage bills spiral like it has in football, and we can all spend fifty quid each to watch our teams play, while the smaller clubs go bust as a result of trying to keep up with the big boys.'"
wages in football have spiralled as a result of income 'spiralling' and which clubs are going bust, small ones or poorly run ones? there are a fair few 'small' clubs doing fine and the ones which arent are largely poorly run, ala leeds utd

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