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| Quote: SmokeyTA "thats hardly a proud list after 10 years is it, one quality player and 5 pretty average ones,
but well done to the youngsters of Wakefield for winning, you now have the even tougher challenge of breaking into the first team, many many youngsters have been where you are now, the vast majority of them you will never have heard of, the vast majority will be doing something other than being professional RL players
if Wakefield get three or four top class youngsters out of this side, if they can get 3 or 4 demanding places in their side then this will have been worth it,
if they all follow the general path, make 10 or 20 appearances and disappear it will have been a waste of time,
the object of academy rugby is to produce professional players, not win tin pot trophies'"
I understand your point about getting players to 1st team level but with regard to the five players named, well that certainly wasn't an exhaustive list, hence the etc etc etc. which you chose to ignore.
My original post was in response toGood to see that you actually have a youth policy now.'"
which kind of insinuates that we have only just begun to produce players through our academy.
Wakefield Trinity have always produced players from their junior system, world record points scorer Neil Fox being a notable one.
In the photo I posted earlier, there are a number of players who went on to play first-team football most notably Gary Spencer and Billy Conway.
I'm not professing that Wakefield Trinity produce more Senior players than any other club I was only defending the point that we've always produced good quality juniors unfortunately we don't always enjoy the fruits of that development.
Let's hope we can hang on to some of these fantastic young players as they develop their professional careers.
ps. Thanks Al, I'll take your comment as a huge compliment.
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| Quote: The Clan "I understand your point about getting players to 1st team level but with regard to the five players named, well that certainly wasn't an exhaustive list, hence the etc etc etc. which you chose to ignore.
My original post was in response to
where are they then? you have named 6, thats hardly something to be proud of after over 10 years,
where are the rest? these regular super league players developed by Wakefield trinity?
Quote: The Clan "Wakefield Trinity have always produced players from their junior system, world record points scorer Neil Fox being a notable one.
In the photo I posted earlier, there are a number of players who went on to play first-team football most notably Gary Spencer and Billy Conway.'" thats from 25 years ago
Quote: The Clan "I'm not professing that Wakefield Trinity produce more Senior players than any other club I was only defending the point that we've always produced good quality juniors unfortunately we don't always enjoy the fruits of that development. '"
then you dont have good Junior Development then do you? if you arent producing what you should be, then you arent good at what your doing
Quote: The Clan "Let's hope we can hang on to some of these fantastic young players as they develop their professional careers.'" lets hope they develop professional careers first,
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "where are they then? you have named 6, thats hardly something to be proud of after over 10 years,'"
Are you just pretending or are you really this thick?
Do all the players we have produced still have to be playing super league to fit your criteria of development.
Quote: SmokeyTA "where are the rest? these regular super league players developed by Wakefield trinity?'"
Do you honestly believe that Wakefield Trinity have only produced six players who have gone on to play at super league level?
If so then you obviously aren't pretending to be thick, if not then do your own research cos I'm not going to do it for you.
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thats from 25 years ago'"
No $h!t Sherlock!
Go back and read my post and see why that answer was included.
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then you dont have good Junior Development then do you? if you arent producing what you should be, then you arent good at what your doing'"
Jeez! The reason why we don't always enjoy the fruits of our development system is because bigger more predatory clubs like Leeds come along and tempt many of our home-grown players away from the club.
How on earth does that translate into us (Trinity) not having a good Jr development?
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lets hope they develop professional careers first,'"
yes! Let's hope they do develop professional careers, just the same as any other junior produced by any other club! |
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| Quote: The Clan "You mean other than the one thats produced Gareth Ellis, Ben Westwood, Danny Brough, Steve Snitch, Chris Feather, Keith Mason etc..etc.. etc...'"
And ferguson, pitts, george, bibb, morton. |
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Well done on having the 5th best academy Wakefield.
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| Quote: pyeman "And ferguson, pitts, george, bibb, morton.'"
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| Quote: CAM. "Well done on having the 5th best academy Wakefield.'"
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| Quote: pyeman "And ferguson, pitts, george, bibb, morton.'"
George was one of ours. |
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Now I understand |
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| Quote: The Clan "Are you just pretending or are you really this thick?
Do all the players we have produced still have to be playing super league to fit your criteria of development.'"
no, nobody has said that, what a strange thing to make up!
no but they need to be regular starters in super league squads over a sustained period of time
Quote: The Clan "Do you honestly believe that Wakefield Trinity have only produced six players who have gone on to play at super league level?
If so then you obviously aren't pretending to be thick, if not then do your own research cos I'm not going to do it for you.'"
no, but i dont think they have produced a huge amount more, who would be regular starters in SL squads for sustained periods of time,
Quote: The Clan "No $h!t Sherlock!
Go back and read my post and see why that answer was included.'"
because you were trying to prove wakefield had always had good youth development, your best examples were neil fox and a couple of players from 25 years ago
Quote: The Clan "Jeez! The reason why we don't always enjoy the fruits of our development system is because bigger more predatory clubs like Leeds come along and tempt many of our home-grown players away from the club.'"
like Ellis and Pitts? i wonder how many players developed by Leeds a more predatory club like wakefield has had over the past few years?
i did wonder how long it would take you to blame somebody else
Quote: The Clan "How on earth does that translate into us (Trinity) not having a good Jr development?'" because you arent developing players who will go onto play for the senior side, this is the point of youth development, if you arent doing it, you arent very good at it,
but after all, you did produce Gareth Ellis, in ten years, that means you have done well doesnt it? |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "no, nobody has said that, what a strange thing to make up!
no but they need to be regular starters in super league squads over a sustained period of time
no, but i dont think they have produced a huge amount more, who would be regular starters in SL squads for sustained periods of time,
because you were trying to prove wakefield had always had good youth development, your best examples were neil fox and a couple of players from 25 years ago
like Ellis and Pitts? i wonder how many players developed by Leeds a more predatory club like wakefield has had over the past few years?
i did wonder how long it would take you to blame somebody else
because you arent developing players who will go onto play for the senior side, this is the point of youth development, if you arent doing it, you arent very good at it,
but after all, you did produce Gareth Ellis, in ten years, that means you have done well doesnt it?'"
Dont pitts, brough, snitch, bibb, george, morton and ferguson count as players that have played for the senior side this season? |
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| Quote: The Clan "aaahh!
Now I understand'"
I'm glad you agree.  |
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| Quote: pyeman "Dont pitts, brough, snitch, bibb, george, morton and ferguson count as players that have played for the senior side this season?'"
Luke George was from our academy FWIW.
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| Quote: Wadski "Luke George was from our academy FWIW.
Ah didnt know that, in the same way i imagine very few know that lunt was from ours.
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