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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: gutterfax "Would a marketing "hit squad" work?
Employed by the RFL, with 2 managers and 2 other staff, this team could liaise with the marketing person at each of the clubs below SL and offer advice, suggestions and resource to assist in the promotion of games and attendance.This, coupled with a financial assistance package should do the trick!'"
Or even clubs in SL that have the same problem
The resource required is personell , and preferably a bloody great big bus/trailer/articulated 'Big Rig ' that can be used locally to the club
Yes finance for individually targeted marketing be that a 1,000 kids t shirts screen printed as a Quins ' bat ' shirt given out free to all the 7 yr olds in the borough complete with a free family ticket for a match or whatever else has worked elsewhere , maybe blitzing a set area with advertising rather than half hearted attempts spread over a season
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: halifaxxx "all this marketing stuff is a load of hot air
the best way a team can market itself, by a country mile, if by winning a few games'"
Unfortunatley you like the RFL dont seem to realise that every time a team wins , one loses as well
In the RFL ' cosy world ' there are only winners ' positives ' no losers ' negatives '
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "
...around 200 K to easyjet,Ryanair,BMI baby,Hotel bills,coach transfers per season to have Toulouse in the competition '"
200k to weekend in Toulouse? I think the clubs need to sort out their spending. Even if you take a 20 man squad over there and 10 assorted physios, coaches etc, you're still valuing the cost of a weekend to TO and back at £6k. Do Leigh really spend that much? What did I miss?
I agree with you about the marketing, not sure I would want a £12k job where I have to commute through a number of offices over a month. Sure there's a credit crunch but if you pay peanuts you get monkies.
I also like your idea of all the championship clubs having a joint shirt deal with a manufacturor.
Both the marketing and the shirt idea don't necessarily need the RFL, couldn't the clubs sort out the shirts themselves and the marketing job a couple local clubs could sort something out themselves first, then move on from there.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: belgianxiii "200k to weekend in Toulouse? I think the clubs need to sort out their spending. Even if you take a 20 man squad over there and 10 assorted physios, coaches etc, you're still valuing the cost of a weekend to TO and back at £6k. Do Leigh really spend that much? What did I miss?
I agree with you about the marketing, not sure I would want a £12k job where I have to commute through a number of offices over a month. Sure there's a credit crunch but if you pay peanuts you get monkies.
I also like your idea of all the championship clubs having a joint shirt deal with a manufacturor.
Both the marketing and the shirt idea don't necessarily need the RFL, couldn't the clubs sort out the shirts themselves and the marketing job a couple local clubs could sort something out themselves first, then move on from there.'"
Yes I was guessing at the cost of the cross channel trips , so ye it might be 120/130 k , or it might be as high as 200 k , but i notice you havent challenged the rest , so you now understand that all the Championship clubs DO NOT GET 100 K EACH
I said 12 to 15 k , which is not bad given as many would be people that actually want to and enjoy working for their respective clubs , enthusiasm for the clubs and the sport is probably just as important as having a degree if we are talking about the infantry , the officers are the ones that need the marketing expertise
Agreed the Merchandise idea is actually better if the RFL were not involved and there are countless other ideas that would only work if the clubs get together for the common good , as with many things like this pride and self importance can get in the way of collaboration , with some clubs thinking they are ' above ' others
But the marketing definatley needs to be led by the RFL in my opinion
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| Quote: Starbug "Yes I was guessing at the cost of the cross channel trips , so ye it might be 120/130 k , or it might be as high as 200 k , but i notice you havent challenged the rest , so you now understand that all the Championship clubs DO NOT GET 100 K EACH ...
But the marketing definatley needs to be led by the RFL in my opinion'"
I never pretended to know the facts about this, I run mostly off things written in an authoritive fashion on this forum - like most people here.
You are guessing at the cost of the TO trip, how's about this for a guess - 30 people at 1k each = £30k.
I'm sure there was an article on the Beeb about £100k to Championship clubs, you say there's strings attached, but you want to attach strings yourself (tie money to marketing).
I am confused by your attitude towards the RFL, you say they suck but then when something needs sorting out they're the only people who can do it. You point out some very good ideas, but the clubs chose not to do this, so you want the RFL to force them to - but when the RFL try to force them to improve in a way that is not exactly the way you think they should go about it you get all vitriolic.
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Has anyone got a link to the championship cap ruling?
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: pyeman "Has anyone got a link to the championship cap ruling?'"
No sorry its on the back of Richard Lewis' cig packet and the hand writing is kinda scruffy
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Others/bones.jpg (23:25:06) Thecko: who'd want to rent a book?
(23:25:10) Thecko: oh, libraries :Others/bones.jpg |
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| Quote: pyeman "Has anyone got a link to the championship cap ruling?'"
rlThis one?rl
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32116.jpg when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: SBR "rlThis one?rl'"
Cheers.
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| "There are other dispensations available by application to the RFL’s Registrations & Salary Cap Manager whereby a club may agree certain relaxations to the salary cap limits (as was the case previously)."
Anyone know what this bit means?
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Others/bones.jpg (23:25:06) Thecko: who'd want to rent a book?
(23:25:10) Thecko: oh, libraries :Others/bones.jpg |
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| Quote: Nozzy ""There are other dispensations available by application to the RFL’s Registrations & Salary Cap Manager whereby a club may agree certain relaxations to the salary cap limits (as was the case previously)."
Anyone know what this bit means?'"
If you ask nicely they'll let you spend more.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: belgianxiii "I never pretended to know the facts about this, I run mostly off things written in an authoritive fashion on this forum - like most people here.
You are guessing at the cost of the TO trip, how's about this for a guess - 30 people at 1k each
I'm sure there was an article on the Beeb about £100k to Championship clubs, you say there's strings attached, but you want to attach strings yourself (tie money to marketing).
I am confused by your attitude towards the RFL, you say they suck but then when something needs sorting out they're the only people who can do it. You point out some very good ideas, but the clubs chose not to do this, so you want the RFL to force them to - but when the RFL try to force them to improve in a way that is not exactly the way you think they should go about it you get all vitriolic.'"
I think you are getting confused here , I would estimate the cost of taking a team either to Toulouse or for Toulouse to come here to be around 6-10 K per game depending on which team and what time of the year etc
Read my earlier post , the total amout of money available to the 21 Championship clubs is 2.1 million , which if divided equally works out at 100 k each
That is how the RFL publicised it , but in reality that include all sponsorship monies from Nothern rail and the Co-oP and travel costs as well
So in theory every club ' could ' access 100 k , in truth a few will get more and most will get a lot less
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24148_1315916334.jpg [quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]
[quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg |
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| Quote: SBR "If you ask nicely they'll let you spend more.'"
................your joking right?
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Others/bones.jpg (23:25:06) Thecko: who'd want to rent a book?
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| Quote: Nozzy "icon_lol.gif ................your joking right?
Partly joking.
I know that a few years back there was a kind of 'means tested' portion of the Championship (or NL1 as 'twere) salary cap. A club could apply to spend more if it could show that it could afford to spend more (within certain limits). I can only assume, having heard nothing about changes to this since, that these are the dispensations the quoted text refers to.
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