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us wire fans are loyal and we've been watching cack for years

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Quote: Adeybull "Bulls win game. Folk who do not wish us well find things to whinge about. Nothing new under the sun.'"

A Bradford fan that thinks everyone is against them. Nothing new here either.

If it helps, people were commenting on how low your crowds were before you had even won, so it's nothing to do with the reason you state. You're just defensive.

Quote: Adeybull "I think the scope of activities available in West Yorkshire compared to Wigan/Saints (eating pies/rugby league) and Hull (kicking people in the face/rugby league) keep Leeds/Bradford derby crowds low IMHO.'"


Ah, so when it's to do with Bradford, the activities are to do with the entire county. But when it's to do with anyone else, it's just their individual towns/cities. I like your fair comparison icon_wink.gif

There's knack all to do in Bradford. You have to go to Leeds to find something decent to do. Don't forget that St Helens is right next to Liverpool and Wigan next to Manchester also. So there goes your regional comparison.

Bradford found something that worked to get the crowds in, and either that no longer works or they no longer have the ability to make it work anymore. The questions are what they were, how they worked, and why they aren't working anymore.

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Quote: Bilko "14,554!!!!!!!!!!!

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Still more than were at Saints v Leeds a few weeks ago.

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Quote: Liane "Yeh, same was said around us. Some gaps, but the seating stand was full and away stand was over half full and pop stand was significantly more cramped than we've had for a while! With the Hull KR game it was announced as around 12,000 and that felt bigger.. plus Hull KR had a lot of fans in the pop stand compared to most other teams.'"


suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Shmoo "Still more than were at Saints v Leeds a few weeks ago.'"


or less than Leeds v Saints last week.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "A Bradford fan that thinks everyone is against them. Nothing new here either.

If it helps, people were commenting on how low your crowds were before you had even won, so it's nothing to do with the reason you state. You're just defensive.



Ah, so when it's to do with Bradford, the activities are to do with the entire county. But when it's to do with anyone else, it's just their individual towns/cities. I like your fair comparison
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Quote: mat "suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in
I was too ed to count but I said to my dad it's a 16k crowd

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Quote: mat "suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in
In the gaps not taken up by an extra 10 thousand people?

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Quote: mat "suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in
No way. Loads of room...everywhere

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Quote: Mark_W "or less than Leeds v Saints last week.'"


Yes, that's true. But the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league.

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If we get a roof on the popular side and STILL get 14k against Leeds then I think mocking us is fair game. Until then its a fruitless exercise in comparing crowds at roofed stadiums with the hideous hole we play in.

The fact that we managed to pull in 15k for smaller games back in the day is merely testament to the staggering quality of the marketing going on back then. That marketing budget no longer exists.

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Quote: Shmoo "Yes, that's true. But the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league.'"


But Saints have never averaged around 15k or whatever Bulls did, which means they've [ilost[/i fans.

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Quote: Shaggoth "If we get a roof on the popular side and STILL get 14k against Leeds then I think mocking us is fair game. Until then its a fruitless exercise in comparing crowds at roofed stadiums with the hideous hole we play in.

The fact that we managed to pull in 15k for smaller games back in the day is merely testament to the staggering quality of the marketing going on back then. That marketing budget no longer exists.'"


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Quote: joburg "Says a lot about the kind of 'fans' you attract- sad really, I thought RL is about supporting your team, not admiring the stadium. Look at Headingly- not brilliant but Leeds can attract the crowds.

Personally I think Bradford have to move away from the whole 'Bully Bully' thing, it's passed its sell-by date.'"


headingly isnt brilliant but atleast its sheltered and on a cold rainy night standing on the terrace at odsal isnt the most appealing thing to do especially when the games on sky.
but i suppose you need something to moan about

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Quote: Wellsy13 "A Bradford fan that thinks everyone is against them. Nothing new here either.

If it helps, people were commenting on how low your crowds were before you had even won, so it's nothing to do with the reason you state. You're just defensive.

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Not at all.

I'm just perplexed that I log on here having got back from the game, and all I see are threads having a go at Bradford's crowds and threads having a go at the officials (to name but two). Nothing about the game itself. Yet when Bradford lose, we get "Bradford are Finished" - type threads. You don't have to be partisan to see a theme there?

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