Very well put bowes

No sensible answer to your post

Actually I'd add further to keeping the leagues separate I'd look at getting a European Comp with maybe 5 from NL1 and 3 from French Elite, which would get far more publicity than just 1 token French team in NL1 and would be far less in travelling expenses

Something like the highly successful treize tournoi?

1 NO

2 all you have done is point out the benifits to Toulouse of being in NL1

Give me some ' real ' benifits to the NL clubs [ nl1 and 2 ] of having Toulouse in NL1 , which will cost the RFL close to a million pounds over the 3 years

If they are not successful I dont even think they will make the 3 years

There is one simple aim for this and that is to prepare them for SL , and if it becomes clear they are not going to make a GF it will all fall apart

Yeah roughly. Probably the best way to do it is have the winners of 5 groups like the NRC ones enter the quarterfinals with Toulouse and the top 2 French League teams, and have two legged quarters, then semis, 1 in each country and a final that alternates. Of course ideally it would work better with Toulouse playing in France as the coming together of two same tier leagues (with top 3 getting in) but there you go. Of course the alternative would be to just put the top 5 from NL1 in and have groups then semis and final, with the NRC for the other 15 NL teams plus the RLCN winner. Of course it could go to a 4:4 split if the Elite improves to be an equal standard with NL1

they get £100k they didnt earn, for a product they struggle to sell, thats more than enough recompense for allowing a french team in the league,

im sure the NL1 clubs would happily give that money back if they didnt want to abide by the RFLs decisions

So you are saying the NL clubs [ both NL 1 and 2 ] are being recompensed for having the French club in NL 1

So you agree that there is no benifit other than the RFL s bribe

Glad you cleared that one up

About time you saw things as they are rather than the RFL 's bull claims

no im saying they are being paid to compete in the RFL competitions, if they dont want to abide the decisions of the RFL then they can find their own competition to play in

the benefit to the clubs in NL1 is the addition of a french side should raise its profile. as part of a long term strategy to bring the league up to a level it becomes a sustainable high profile pro league in its own right. We will see whether or not there is an immediate benefit to the clubs currently in NL1 but regardless, it isnt the clubs place to decide which decisions they will abide by and which they wont,

its about time you got your head out of your ass and understood that RL doesnt start and stop with a minority of heap clubs in the north of england, the vast majority of which have been given more than ample opportunity to compete and havent because of their own incompetance, not everything which is done is done specifically for these clubs, and neither should they be, the game is bigger than these northern backwaters,

So you do work for the RFL after all

no, i just care about the game a huge amount more than these clubs who have all mostly wasted their opportunity and are now trying to stop anyone else having a go

Go on then

Explain how these incompetant heap clubs from the northern backwaters are stopping ' somebody else ' from having a go

i didnt say they were stopping them, i said they were trying

a prime example would the epic leigh franchise dummy spit

When all else fails

Change the subject

Again

So I take it you're including Sheffield in there even though it's as big as Toulouse, or Gateshead who represent the large Tyneside area. Both of which are working their way up from being shafted and will be adversely affected by having to travel to France (it's not just money, the players have to take time off work). Yet if they'd kept Toulouse in France and created a European comp for the top teams of both leagues then both leagues would have gained something and been seen as equal, rather than moving French Elite down from being a feeder league to SL to being a feeder league to NL1 for the sake of one club. Toulouse in NL1 is just a short term fix, they should stay French Elite til they're ready for SL