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| Quote: shinymcshine "A thought
Probably not, if people want to cause bother they will generally find a way, most stewards aren't paid enough to get involved in anything major and the olice would have been stood outside having a chat oblivious to what was going on
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| Quote: shinymcshine "A thought
Doubtful. No matter what you try, some idiots will always spoil it for the rest of us (encouraged by the idiot waving his fake £1 million cheque around). The idiots from our side that couldn't restrain themselves from the goading by the idiot Salford fans didn't help either.
When a mob wants to invade a pitch, apart from putting up a physical barrier ala the round ball game in the 80s with fences between the pitch and spectators, there is nothing that can really stop them.
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Hudgell isn't happy www.seriousaboutrl.com/hudgell-c ... ment-4733/
I kind of get where he's coming from- what he's saying is it takes two to tango-
If hudds fans had reacted to the goading by the kr fans when they thought they'd won in the final moments the week before there could have been similar scenes. hudds didn't take to the pitch in the way the Salford fans had when they won it - or it could have been the same.
Salford fans had recent previous, and their owner inflamed the situation by his actions as he also "invaded the pitch" Salford fans invaded the pitch BUT it is KRs ground and therefore they are in charge of crowd control so have to take the bigger responsibility....
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Hudgell isn't happy www.seriousaboutrl.com/hudgell-c ... ment-4733/
I kind of get where he's coming from- what he's saying is it takes two to tango-
If hudds fans had reacted to the goading by the kr fans when they thought they'd won in the final moments the week before there could have been similar scenes. hudds didn't take to the pitch in the way the Salford fans had when they won it - or it could have been the same.
Salford fans had recent previous, and their owner inflamed the situation by his actions as he also "invaded the pitch" Salford fans invaded the pitch BUT it is KRs ground and therefore they are in charge of crowd control so have to take the bigger responsibility....
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| Disgraceful statement from Hudgell.
From the tv images I saw the Salford fans were on the pitch jubilant at what they had seen when the KR lot went onto the pitch to attack them.
The latest 'bad' news shown on the BBC website,was the efforts by the police to locate 12 people,the majority of whom are adorned in Hull KR clothing.rlHererl
A light-hearted Dr Koukash being on the pitch waving a cardboard,over-sized cheque cannot possibly be an excuse or an incitement for HULL KR fans to attack Salford followers.
Hudgells club failed to heed the warnings after they failed with best endeavours in a derby match some years earlier,when they were fined but curiously Hudgell didn't make any ridiculous statements. They just wanted to rlMove-Onrl
As for recent crowd trouble - The Salford incident at Huddersfield involved fighting amongst themselves - no weapons used -which involved female friends/relatives of players and coaching staff and is in no way related to the disorder perpetrated by followers of Hull KR.
Are the Hull KR stewards incapable of going to any part of the stadium where there is a potential for trouble/outbreak of trouble or are they rooted to the south end of the stadium?
If Dr Koukash had made such a statement then no doubt the RFL would fine him.
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| Quote: Angelic Cynic "Disgraceful statement from Hudgell.
From the tv images I saw the Salford fans were on the pitch jubilant at what they had seen when the KR lot went onto the pitch to attack them.
The latest 'bad' news shown on the BBC website,was the efforts by the police to locate 12 people,the majority of whom are adorned in Hull KR clothing.rlHererl
A light-hearted Dr Koukash being on the pitch waving a cardboard,over-sized cheque cannot possibly be an excuse or an incitement for HULL KR fans to attack Salford followers.
Hudgells club failed to heed the warnings after they failed with best endeavours in a derby match some years earlier,when they were fined but curiously Hudgell didn't make any ridiculous statements. They just wanted to rlMove-Onrl
As for recent crowd trouble - The Salford incident at Huddersfield involved fighting amongst themselves - no weapons used -which involved female friends/relatives of players and coaching staff and is in no way related to the disorder perpetrated by followers of Hull KR.
Are the Hull KR stewards incapable of going to any part of the stadium where there is a potential for trouble/outbreak of trouble or are they rooted to the south end of the stadium?
If Dr Koukash had made such a statement then no doubt the RFL would fine him.'"
Not quite a true reflection of what happened with Salford at hudds. The trouble all began because some Salford idiot(s) decided to let off flares, flares burn at over 1000oC so very much a weapon in close quarters. The "fights amongst themselves" were caused by some fans taking umbrage with other fans trying to cause such trouble and several tried to enter the pitch but were prevented from doing so.
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| Quote: Angelic Cynic "Disgraceful statement from Hudgell.
From the tv images I saw the Salford fans were on the pitch jubilant at what they had seen when the KR lot went onto the pitch to attack them.
The latest 'bad' news shown on the BBC website,was the efforts by the police to locate 12 people,the majority of whom are adorned in Hull KR clothing.rlHererl
A light-hearted Dr Koukash being on the pitch waving a cardboard,over-sized cheque cannot possibly be an excuse or an incitement for HULL KR fans to attack Salford followers.
Hudgells club failed to heed the warnings after they failed with best endeavours in a derby match some years earlier,when they were fined but curiously Hudgell didn't make any ridiculous statements. They just wanted to rlMove-Onrl
As for recent crowd trouble - The Salford incident at Huddersfield involved fighting amongst themselves - no weapons used -which involved female friends/relatives of players and coaching staff and is in no way related to the disorder perpetrated by followers of Hull KR.
Are the Hull KR stewards incapable of going to any part of the stadium where there is a potential for trouble/outbreak of trouble or are they rooted to the south end of the stadium?
If Dr Koukash had made such a statement then no doubt the RFL would fine him.'"
Mmmm and yet the Salford fans jubilation led them to punch the Hull kR fans.
They shouldn't have been on the pitch, end of. Pitch invasions are a massive provocation. Koukash was his usual 'it's all about me' attention seeking self at the final whistle too, no doubt further provoking.
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| Quote: Angelic Cynic "Disgraceful statement from Hudgell.
From the tv images I saw the Salford fans were on the pitch jubilant at what they had seen when the KR lot went onto the pitch to attack them.
The latest 'bad' news shown on the BBC website,was the efforts by the police to locate 12 people,the majority of whom are adorned in Hull KR clothing.rlHererl
A light-hearted Dr Koukash being on the pitch waving a cardboard,over-sized cheque cannot possibly be an excuse or an incitement for HULL KR fans to attack Salford followers.
Hudgells club failed to heed the warnings after they failed with best endeavours in a derby match some years earlier,when they were fined but curiously Hudgell didn't make any ridiculous statements. They just wanted to rlMove-Onrl
As for recent crowd trouble - The Salford incident at Huddersfield involved fighting amongst themselves - no weapons used -which involved female friends/relatives of players and coaching staff and is in no way related to the disorder perpetrated by followers of Hull KR.
Are the Hull KR stewards incapable of going to any part of the stadium where there is a potential for trouble/outbreak of trouble or are they rooted to the south end of the stadium?
If Dr Koukash had made such a statement then no doubt the RFL would fine him.'"
Absolute rubbish, you weren't there.
Salford fans were all lined up looking to enter the pitch when it looked as though they were going to lose the match. Of course, they won in the end but they were going to enter that pitch either way.
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| You're wrong there. Hull fans were lining the pitch at end of game as they thought they had won so they were about to invade their own pitch. Salford ended up winning and ran on pitch and hull fans who were at the edge already, then entered and scuffles began. Wonder if hudge would criticise his own fans if they would have run on first (like they were planning to do before drama at end)
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| So fans were lining the side of the pitch before the final whistle- in which case the stewards should have been aware that a pitch invasion was likely......
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: RED1 "You're wrong there. Hull fans were lining the pitch at end of game as they thought they had won so they were about to invade their own pitch. Salford ended up winning and ran on pitch and hull fans who were at the edge already, then entered and scuffles began. Wonder if hudge would criticise his own fans if they would have run on first (like they were planning to do before drama at end)'"
Salford fans invaded the pitch when you scored the equalising try and actually ran over to the east stand to goad the fans so it was always going to kick off after that
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Salford fans invaded the pitch when you scored the equalising try and actually ran over to the east stand to goad the fans so it was always going to kick off after that'"
Why was it always going to kick off after that? Kr fans didn't have to react to the goading, like hudds fans didn't the week before, like Leeds fans didn't when FC trashed hudds ground, like cas fans didn't when Widnes invaded the pitch... plenty of instances where opposition fans don't react ( Im only mentioning ones I have personal experience of)
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| Quote: jools "Why was it always going to kick off after that? Kr fans didn't have to react to the goading, like hudds fans didn't the week before, like Leeds fans didn't when FC trashed hudds ground, like cas fans didn't when Widnes invaded the pitch... plenty of instances where opposition fans don't react ( Im only mentioning ones I have personal experience of)'"
Do you actually have enough fans to constitute a pitch invasion?
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: jools "Why was it always going to kick off after that? Kr fans didn't have to react to the goading, like hudds fans didn't the week before, like Leeds fans didn't when FC trashed hudds ground, like cas fans didn't when Widnes invaded the pitch... plenty of instances where opposition fans don't react ( Im only mentioning ones I have personal experience of)'"
I doubt there was as much riding on them games and due to the ending I'm not saying it's right at all but emotions take over and a few fans ended up fighting thousands didn't
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| Quote: fun time frankie "I doubt there was as much riding on them games and due to the ending I'm not saying it's right at all but emotions take over and a few fans ended up fighting thousands didn't'"
Well there was quite a lot riding on the week before- cause that's the game that Landed KR in the MPG to start with! The Leeds /hull game was a semi final so a lot riding there.
All clubs have idiots. They all have fans who behave in embarrassing ways. But there's a difference between the odd numpty and a whole bunch.
The sad thing is those that have caused this probably won't hesitate to behave badly again- the only losers are the clubs they claim to "support"
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einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result: |
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| Quote: jools "Well there was quite a lot riding on the week before- cause that's the game that Landed KR in the MPG to start with! The Leeds /hull game was a semi final so a lot riding there.
All clubs have idiots. They all have fans who behave in embarrassing ways. But there's a difference between the odd numpty and a whole bunch.
The sad thing is those that have caused this probably won't hesitate to behave badly again- the only losers are the clubs they claim to "support"'"
The game the week before both clubs knew they had another bite of the cherry the thing is if the Salford fans hadn't entered the pitch the rovers fans wouldn't have done but at the end of the day they did and both clubs were fined and rightly so
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