The Tate try was a try. Get over it

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Have stopped watching. Sick of being cheated over 40 years by Aussies. Everything goes their way. From the very first penalty, when the Aussie should have been penalised for moving off the mark to the knock-on try and the in-touch/no touch-down, it is England being worn down by atrocious decisions. Year after Year, decade after decade - and we just take it without a murmur. And the rule changes/interpretations/ref appointments. Don't start me on itineraries - everything weighted to Australia.

Tate's wasn't a try, he never had control over that ball.

You can't complain about England making shocking mistake but the Aussie's getting everything again doesn't help.

Wally Lewis didn't think so.

I'll go with his opinion.

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Abysmal

if you think that Tate's try was a try get off this forum, he had absolute no control, there was daylight between his finger and the ball hence the 2metre bounce.

Newsflash: Tuquri scores a try from a disgusting forward pass.

No wonder our game gets little respect when the credibility of the game is under scrutiny.

There was nothing wrong with tates try he had fingertip control. The second try was a knock on and the first in the second half was as clear a forward pass as you will ever see in the game. That said England are pathetic. Tomkins is miles out of his depth, he offers nothing in attack, kick return or defence.

untill we all play to the same rules for NRL super league and international, there will always be confusion. untll we get neural refs there will always be the feeling of bieng cheated. until we get these simple things right our game will be a laughing stock

I thought Tate bounce it to be honest.I thought he lost it on the way down. The first one though was a blatant knock on.How the video ref couldnt see the balls movement change after he touched it is beyond me im afraid.

refs call - nothing. its a joke

Except the ball didnt touch the line. It was short. Correct call

and add that the woeful centre who is Ryan Atkins. Completely out of his depth. His defence is woeful.

The score has flattered Australia, ref and video ref have seen to that.