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Quote: dally messenger "were all RL fans.

what the RFL has done re crusaders is exactly what should be done for the good of the sport'"


Totally wrong as usual. What the the RFL is doing will kill the expansion of the game eventually.

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[quote="OFFTHECUFF":1xb0p6sn] Wish i could watch a team like Leigh. :CLAP: [/quote:1xb0p6sn] [quote="Steve":1xb0p6sn] Dislike Leigh with a passion, but they are a million miles ahead of any other club in this league, a sad fact. [/quote:1xb0p6sn]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_24148.jpg



Quote: JonM "Well, most of the "expansion" clubs are in the championship, after all.

SL has all but two of its clubs within 30 miles of the M62. The championships have Skolars, S. Wales, Gateshead, Toulouse (and if you count Sheffield as expansion, the Eagles too). Not forgetting the 3 Cumbrian Clubs who are well away from the motorway.'"


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Not forgetting the CC had blackpool too up until about a month ago. Pity the RFL didn't deem them worth saving icon_rolleyes.gif

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They did. They worked with the club to find a way forward, Blackpool failed to provide a plan by the deadline.

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Quote: tb "They did. They worked with the club to find a way forward, Blackpool failed to provide a plan by the deadline.'"


More a case of Blackpool's initial plan being unacceptable and them not being able to provide one that met the RFL's requirements.

Rightly or wrongly, the bar was lower for Crusaders.

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Quote: tb "They did. They worked with the club to find a way forward, Blackpool failed to provide a plan by the deadline.'"


They should have just bundled them oodles of cash like they allegedly do with other expansion clubs. icon_razz.gifIMP: icon_mrgreen.gif eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: Roofs "They should have just bundled them oodles of cash like they allegedly do with other expansion clubs. or overseas dispensation like they do certain heartland clubs icon_razz.gifIMP: icon_mrgreen.gif eusa_whistle.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "or overseas dispensation like they do certain heartland clubs
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Will give you that one Smokey. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "or overseas dispensation like they do certain heartland clubs
Isn't the dispensation given to the player? eusa_think.gif

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "the case wouldnt get past the first stage, it would be laughed out of court. The clubs have agreed to be subject to the RFL's subjective decision, they have agreed to be bound by the RFL's subjective decision and that the RFL's subjective decision is final.

There isnt a court in the land that would even allow an argument to say the RFL's subjective decision was wrong, there also isnt an argument in the world that could PROVE a subjective decision wrong.

The only way a club could challenge the decision was that if they felt the independent scoring, i.e the putting the clubs in to the A B C categories was done incorrectly.'"


Quote: SmokeyTA "You're suggesting that the common law can be changed through precedent. It can, but those changes in 99% of the cases are simply clarifying existing law. The change is usually relatively small, not an absolute about turn.

I was taught administrative law in the late eighties and the position with regard to judicial review of sports bodies was the same then as I set out in my post you quote. However, the details in my post came from an article on the subject in April 2010's edition of The Solicitors Journal.

This means the law has not changed in over 20 years. I can only think that anyone who ignored that was either very naive or foolish. If a Premiership club like Sheffield United with all its millions to throw at lawyers can't manage it, I doubt any rugby league club could.

It would never damage the RFL's credability, because no case will ever be heard. The chances of the Crown Office (or the Administrative Court to give it its new fangeled name) giving permission to apply are so remote, no one is ever likely to take the odds.'"


Fair enough.

If it was as impossible as you two make out, then it makes you wonder why they need clubs to sign an agreement not to take legal action, under pain of expulsion from the game itself – curious. eusa_think.gif

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Quote: Pepe "If it was as impossible as you two make out, then it makes you wonder why they need clubs to sign an agreement not to take legal action, under pain of expulsion from the game itself – curious.
Good point and I'm not sure (but you are assuming the RFL knows all of this!). My best guess is such disclaimers are not unusual in any tendering/franchising process to try to reduce the possibility of an organisation getting mired in legal actions with unhappy jilted suitors. Under the present Civil Procedure Rules there is an obligation for contact between parties before any proceedings are even issued. This may still involve a fair amount of work and naturally legal costs, as lawyers don't traditionally come cheap. Therefore anything that assists in having the suitor's solicitors right at the start telling the suitor "just don't go there" has to be worthwhile.

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Quote: Pepe "Fair enough.

If it was as impossible as you two make out, then it makes you wonder why they need clubs to sign an agreement not to take legal action, under pain of expulsion from the game itself – curious.
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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: Sarf Essex Taff "Good point and I'm not sure (but you are assuming the RFL knows all of this!). My best guess is such disclaimers are not unusual in any tendering/franchising process to try to reduce the possibility of an organisation getting mired in legal actions with unhappy jilted suitors. Under the present Civil Procedure Rules there is an obligation for contact between parties before any proceedings are even issued. This may still involve a fair amount of work and naturally legal costs, as lawyers don't traditionally come cheap. Therefore anything that assists in having the suitor's solicitors right at the start telling the suitor "just don't go there" has to be worthwhile.'"


Belt and braces eh? icon_wink.gif

It looks like whoever is for the drop is completely screwed then.

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "It's part of the membership rules of the rfl, it applies to any legal action against the rfl, not just regarding franchises'"

It seems even stranger then, that licence applicants have to sign yet another affirmation of this policy, if all clubs are already signed up to it anyway.

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