Its simple really. You play reserve grade and progress into 1st grade.

Many in the UK are concerned that guys who are Oz reserve graders come over here and take 1st team places. For this reason there was a 75% NRL (now 50%) 1st grade games rule. So only proven players come over.

However fortunately for Wakey a cap in 2006 in a developmental game is enough to by pass the 1st grade game rule.

No it means i answered the question but you cannot understand it.

considering you failed to understand a quite simple and direct question, lets try another tack,

ill try and explain whats going on, because to be honest you seem out of your depth, but that doesnt mean what you have to say doesnt have merit or you shouldnt say it, so ill help you through

you have made a statement which is,

[iLike Trinity most clubs will need to bolster their team/squad with overseas signings of varied experience and quality all subject to the circumstances prevailing at the time. [/i

and i am asking you to evidence this, im asking you to validate your statement, what is your evidence behind it,

so which clubs are [iLike Trinity[/i, which clubs [iprevailing circumstances at the time[/i demand that [ithey bolster their team/squad with overseas signings of varied experience and quality[/i to the level wakefield have?


its not too complicated, its fairly simple, if you still dont understand just ask, im very patient and happy to help

Who would you suggest is a big enough player who has a very good off-load game? That is available and very cheap

if wakefield have plenty of 16 year olds who are going to tear up SL in 5 years time, then great, i couldnt be happier,

it doesnt alter that it is a legacy of poor administration previously that has put you in the position you are now, and there needs to be a downside to that, we cannot keep papering over the cracks with players like winterstein,



how has it improved though? you are still relying on 11 overseas players!

once again, im not saying that you need to throw 16 year olds in to the mix,

neither am i saying i dont understand why you need to bring a prop in,

what i am saying is, that because you already have 10 players trained abroad, you shouldnt be going and getting another one, if you need a prop, look local, look at getting a youngster in on loan from an SL club, look at the NLs, look at france, look at RU, just dont bring in another overseas player

in isolation is dont have a problem with winterstein, i dont really think he is of the quality we want to bring over, but im really not upset if wakefield bring in a poor player, its the fact you are now at 11 which is the problem, there has to be at some stage a downside to bringing in more and more overseas players

Careful Smokey, your facade is slipping



It is! And in time it will do so in greater numbers.

Anyone with any knowledge of how youth development works will understand that success is gauged on an individual basis.
One young player produced is a success.

To produce greater numbers of 1st grade players means broadening the base and that means greater finance and resource.
There are a number of reasons why some clubs are better positioned to grow their Youth programmes more quickly than others.




Which is why I chose to include them in my statement.

Why? You had £100K for Bird.

What has the way a Ltd company spends it's money got to do with you.

For a club that is only kept afloat by a sugar daddy, a team with virtually no home grown players, a stadium rented from a football team, fans who mostly turn up on a freebie, to question another is a touch rich. However it's really non of my business how the body snatchers of SL spend the old mans money.

Hull seem to have plenty of props, Thackray could be a decent shot


but again, that isnt the point, If wakefield need a big offloading prop and cant find one here, fine got get Winterstein

but when you also cant find a winger so you need two players trained overseas, or a hooker, or a centre, or second row,

it stops being an issue of producing a big offloading prop and you start to wonder what we are actually producing,

and even then, Why do wakefield need 3 overseas hookers? is there really not a young british player good enough to be 3rd choice hooker? and why do you need Henderson, Martin and Demteriou when you have Atkins, and Gleeson who can play centre and Grix, snitch, wilkes, ferguson, bibb, pitts who can play 2nd row and you have let Golden go to Quins?

There's your problem fella!

You choose to add your own spin on what I said by adding to it and then you then ask me to justify a statement that I never made.

had someone else, a fan of another club said that Vasty, you can be sure you would be wading in, insults flying and demanding an apology

i would have hope recent events may have taught you how unimportant RL really is in the scheme of things and things like this are really un called for

Because a club is run to make a profit. The interest in Bird came at a time when Huddersfield were interested in Drew and i think i remember Kear saying 'We'll allow Brad to go if the deal is right for Wakefield Trinity and Brad', hence the interest in Bird. To sign him we'd offload a player.

Would you therefore consider Korkidas, a reserve player at Castleford, a poor signing considering you have Chris Lawson in your first team squad coupled with some good academy props and a small injury list?

hes our only impact prop apart from sam moa who we are still waiting for so theres no chance we would let him go.

And thats poor from you Vasty, more holes in that than my sieve on the draining board

so there are no clubs [ilike Wakefield [/i in your opinion then?

and the statement
[i
Like Trinity most clubs will need to bolster their team/squad with overseas signings of varied experience and quality all subject to the circumstances prevailing at the time. [/i

[ishould have read Like Trinity most clubs will need to bolster their team/squad with overseas signings of varied experience and quality all subject to the circumstances prevailing at the time, though none to the level of Wakefield[/i

but you are wrong, still, Hull KR arent far off, they need to improve, as do Wigan, Bradford arent terrible but they have shown they can do better, Les Catalans still need a helping hand and they are improving but they could also do a little better