Quote: JB Down Under "Does the RFL produce an annual report showing playing numbers, jnr registrations, income of RFL and SL etc?'" + www.therfl.co.uk/about_the_rfl/annual_report

Quote: JB Down Under "Does the RFL produce an annual report showing playing numbers, jnr registrations, income of RFL and SL etc?'" + www.therfl.co.uk/about_the_rfl/annual_report

You mention the sport and then just cite examples from the Super League

Rugby League is much much more than the Super League and the RFL manage the sport of Rugby League far more professionally than any time I can remember

Here are some stats for you to chew on from the 2010 RFL annual report... I would say the sport is ‘ticking over’ quite nicely

from the Participation& Community section

From 2003 to 2010 the RFL has undertook 35 unique projects in improving or developing new facilities in the communitygame. The total investment by the RFL is £3.37million in the last seven years. In addition through these 35 projects the total investment to the community sport is over £11.65million.

2003-2006 – 8 projects £1.66million
2006-2008 – 17 projects £1.26million
2009-2010 – 10 projects £450k

In the last fi ve years 1,000,000 people aged between five and 19-years-old have received coaching tuition from professional players.

There are 120 college and university teams (HE and FE) within the UK with 2,500 players.

The combined services (Army, Navy ,and RAF) now has in excess of 40 teams with over 800 players.

There are 2,437 teams competing in all forms of the game

There were 71,391 adults (16+) players who played any form of the game in 2010.

And from the Carnegie Champion schools

1,700 teams and 29,800 pupils took part in the 2010 Carnegie Champion Schools tournament making it the biggest Rugby League tournament in the world.

And from London

In terms of players, the biggest growth area was in our junior clubs. We had 800 junior players registered in 2008 – but we expect that to reach 1,500 by 2011 across 17 junior clubs

And the women’s game

There are 2,872 females playing contact Rugby League (including Champion Schools) plus a further 4,100 playing noncontact Rugby League

I have had 3 Beers with my BBQ but I can not work out the improvement in some of those stats?

2003-2006 – 8 projects £1.66million
2006-2008 – 17 projects £1.26million
2009-2010 – 10 projects £450k

Is that an improvement?

From a distance and I do not put all of the problems at the RFL door by any means...
The RFL looks very poorly operated, when I look on the web for info etc that the RFL should be in charge of I am disappointed.
No info, hardly any updates, its one of the worst websites from any sporting body in the World.
Any mug company can maintain a website and pay a half assed kid, bugger all to maintain and update it.

Are you sure about this?
Look at the figures again look at the time slot and the channel, even then what you have stated is incorrect.

Essentially, it is written as a 10 year report – these figures are showcasing what the RFL have invested in the last 10 years... there may not have been an increase in 2009-10 but it is the same board that many are criticising that has made the investments over the years

The fact that the numbers are decreasing (money) does not worry you?
Its a company annual report that is going broke.

The more I look at the figures and expenses I am trying to figure out if the Rugby League (RFL) has a bigger budget than the EBL the England Badminton League, it could be a close call.
No wonder Aussies are shoring up the home game, it will be a Southern Hemisphere game only in a decade or so.

Agreed and and in recent hostory run more professionally than most other sporting bodies.



Given the amount of funding the RFL gets from SportEngland very little money is being spent on community projects.


This contradicts sport england statistics and by a very long way.


Something is seriously wrong with those figures, teams/clubs with an average of 20 players obviosuly some people are playing for than more than one team.



Be nice to know the number of clubs and the breakdown of the teams they have.


Again there is lack of depth in that figure.



Is a fantastic achievement and one the RFL should be very proud of.

Problem with these figures is they contradict SportEngland figures (playing numbers are about the same level of 5 years ago), they have not met their own targets. What is RFL doing with all the SportEngland funding they received over 25 million GBP 2003 -2010 yet have spent less than 10% of that on the community game based on the RFL statistics. Typically RFL stats have to be taken with a large pinch of salt trhey previously have provided inflated participation figures to SportEngland and what they publish often lacks depth or transparency.

No and no

Quote: Thoth "Are you sure about this? Look at the figures again look at the time slot and the channel, even then what you have stated is incorrect.'" No, I'm not sure why you felt the need to lie but what the OP said was in no way incorrect. www.barb.co.uk/

Quote: Thoth "Are you sure about this? Look at the figures again look at the time slot and the channel, even then what you have stated is incorrect.'" No, I'm not sure why you felt the need to lie but what the OP said was in no way incorrect. www.barb.co.uk/

The NRL is bargaining for a a massive TV deal that is spread amongst the Clubs.
At least hundreds of million dollars.

The money that the RFL spend seems small and is probably small in comparison, but 450k? or 1million?
Thats really small business figures, my company that is really small and local spends 100k on motor racing sponsorship

Why don’t you come back when you have had less beer

The figures I quoted are for community projects and will vary based on the number and validity of the projects each year

The RFL total income increased to £22.8m in 2010, a 4.1 per cent increase on 2009. This is not an organisation that is going broke or full of debt

Your argument does seem a pretty idiotic way of saying we only regularly beat RU in terms of Sky audiences rather than we always beat RU in terms of Sky Audiences. An almost wilfully disingenuous way for phrasing that argument if we are honest.

Community projects are the foundations of this game or any other game yes?
If there is a worthwhile investment in the game that will produce dividends down the track you support and invest in that feature.

What were the figures you posted saying?

Each year you put less into these projects cause they were....
A) a mistake
B) we cant afford it.

Rugby League in England (sadly) is on its last legs, in a decade or two it will be gone, thanks to the RFL and the insular Club mentality.

Do you know what a ‘community project’ is?