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| Quote: Dico "Who cares?
He's just another kid with potential who's got a bit of a mouth.
When he gets a full season in first grade then talk but until then there's better players in front of him'"
I suppose thats the attitude we should take really.
The lad seems to fancy himself abit and good on him for showing that sort if confidence but as it stands he's got to try and get in the Melbourne side before he even thinks about a place in an international side and that will be a tough enough test.
Going off his interview on the superleague website he's been working on his Aussie accent just incase he ever does gain selection
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| Quote: Dico "there's better players in front of him'"
Such as?
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| Quote: Dico "Who cares?
He's just another kid with potential who's got a bit of a mouth.
When he gets a full season in first grade then talk but until then there's better players in front of him'"
At last some sense
He is almost 21 and has never played a first grade game. Until he proves himself he is no better than a junior at Wigan, Leeds etc. He wasnt exactly renowned as a 16 year old before going to Australia and wasnt even at a Super League club. Despite this people automatically assume that he is better than our own academy players never mind established ones.
I would bet that some of the people that are raving about him havent actually seen him play and are just jumping on the bandwaggon. Others think that he is some kind of superstar based on a few grainy interent clips.
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "I can’t believe he’s Halifax born and supports the Bulls tut tut
Supports Fax as well but only would play at SL level if in the UK-cant blame him to be honest. His dad was also at Fax reserves and flattened Mal Reilly after training once at Thrum hall. Gary was a very handy player but also had a good punch on him!
Good on the lad and so what if he is arrogant and full of confidence? Maybe thats why the Brits often fail to live up to the Aussies as they lack confidence and believe they are going to get beat. If he does not make it in the NRL so what least he has given it a good try. For me I am glad Gareth is where he is, though shame the system in the UK turned him away from our game to play Union! That should be a wake up call to the RFL-but as usual the same stale system will be in place and more youngsters get bored and drift out the game.
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| Lets face it if he can catch, run, tackle reasonably and isn't an idiot he would be first choice for England at fullback. We have no one anywhere near the quality of the Australians.
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| Saddened what I meant was after not playing a first grade game how can he be in front of people like Briscoe, Owen (imo englands next fullback), or even dare I say it Paul flippin Wellens.
I've no doubt he'll go on to become a good player but giving it mouth like that he'll get a good slap by those 'park footballers'.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Such as?'"
Unless you've seen more of him then the rest of us who knows!
I think thats the point really. Just because the lad plays for an NRL club and is English we all presume he's going to be a blinder when in truth he may not cut the mustard for Melbourne and be released to play park rugby somewhere.
Hopefully he'll be as good as the hype and will actually want to turn out for England but as things stand he's behind about 15 players for the England fullback jersey.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Unless you've seen more of him then the rest of us who knows!
I think thats the point really. Just because the lad plays for an NRL club and is English we all presume he's going to be a blinder when in truth he may not cut the mustard for Melbourne and be released to play park rugby somewhere.
Hopefully he'll be as good as the hype and will actually want to turn out for England but as things stand he's behind about 15 players for the England fullback jersey.'"
I've seen a lot of him and I'll see more of him in the reserves this season for the Storm.
A lot of people wouldn't be going on about him here in oz if it wasn't for Matty Johns talking him up in the U20s Grand Final on telly last year. And continually pointing out that he's a pom and how good he is and how he'll get into a GB side etc. etc
Unfortunately this is all to help the hype surrounding the Toyota Cup U20s comp over here.
I'll keep you up to date on how he's going in the NSW Cup if you like. Because that's where he'll be playing!
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "I've seen a lot of him and I'll see more of him in the reserves this season for the Storm.
A lot of people wouldn't be going on about him here in oz if it wasn't for Matty Johns talking him up in the U20s Grand Final on telly last year. And continually pointing out that he's a pom and how good he is and how he'll get into a GB side etc. etc
Unfortunately this is all to help the hype surrounding the Toyota Cup U20s comp over here.
I'll keep you up to date on how he's going in the NSW Cup if you like. Because that's where he'll be playing!'"
Whats your opinion on him?
The real deal or overhyped? I'd guess you think the latter going off that post.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "I've seen a lot of him and I'll see more of him in the reserves this season for the Storm.
A lot of people wouldn't be going on about him here in oz if it wasn't for Matty Johns talking him up in the U20s Grand Final on telly last year. And continually pointing out that he's a pom and how good he is and how he'll get into a GB side etc. etc
Unfortunately this is all to help the hype surrounding the Toyota Cup U20s comp over here.
I'll keep you up to date on how he's going in the NSW Cup if you like. Because that's where he'll be playing!'"
Michael Jennings is 21, as a comparison.
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Quote: Saddened! "Apparantly nailed on to move to Wigan on a long term deal with the option of returning to Melbourne.
He'll be a superstar.'"
He's a massive Bulls fan & he admits he would like to return and play in Super League at some point and would "love" to play for the Bulls but, with two years remaining on his Storm deal, is in no hurry.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6107457.jp
HTH
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Quote: Saddened! "Apparantly nailed on to move to Wigan on a long term deal with the option of returning to Melbourne.
He'll be a superstar.'"
He's a massive Bulls fan & he admits he would like to return and play in Super League at some point and would "love" to play for the Bulls but, with two years remaining on his Storm deal, is in no hurry.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-le ... 6107457.jp
HTH
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "I can’t believe he’s Halifax born and supports the Bulls tut tut
I can, sad but true that a sizeable proportion of the Dulls' crowd have HX postcodes.
He'd be nowt without his scholarship at the mighty Fax
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Michael Jennings is 21, as a comparison.'"
I don't understand what your comparison's about TBH.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Whats your opinion on him?
The real deal or overhyped? I'd guess you think the latter going off that post.'"
Very good player. He was their player of the year in U20s. But seriously. This means nothing at the end of the day. Wait til he plays against the grown ups. Then decide.
Being in Australia where everything is talked up, you have to take a back seat and analyse for yourself.
Like last night, most Souths fans wouldn't have seen Burgess play before. But he's a hero of theirs already as the media have made it so. Poor bugger, but he'll handle it.
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| Quote: Rooster Booster "I don't understand what your comparison's about TBH.'"
Michael Jennings is a similar age and is already playing Test RL. Widdop is being talked-up despite not even playing a first team game.
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