Crabtree in SR? Shouldn't a back rower be mobile ?

Burgess shouldn't be at Loose either, i'm sorry but he's a prop who can play in the back row, but his best position is prop.

Crabtree has played a bit of 2nd row at Hudds.

Burgess at loose would effectively be another prop as a "3rd middler".

Briscoe
Fox
Smith
Shenton
Hall
McGuire
Myler

Graham
Moore
Peacock
Ellis
Burgess
Sinfield

Roby
O'Loughlin
Morley
Crabtree

That's exactly how i'd use it.
In fact, stick Ellis and Lockers in the 2nd row and have basically 4 props and a tackling ball playing machine all working together. Pick halfbacks that can kick etc etc
I suppose if you did want Ellis in the centre stick westwood in who's the same as above.
No Wilkin, Sinfield etc etc this time please, the next player like that can be Westerman in a few years time who's bigger

Shaun Briscoe
Tom Briscoe
Michael Shenton
Tony Clubb
Ryan Hall
Sam Tomkins
Kyle Eastmond
Adrian Morley
James Roby
Gareth Carvell
Jamie Peacock
Gareth Ellis
Kevin Sinfield

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Sam Burgess
James Graham
Sean O'loughlin
Scott Moore

1) shaun briscoe
2) ryan hall
3) lee smith
4) michael shenton
5) kyle eastmond
6) danny mcguire
7) ritchie myler


adrian morley
9) james roby
10) jamie peacock
11) sam burgess
12) garreth ellis
13) sean o'loughlin

14) james graham
15) jon wilkin
16) ben westwood
17) sam tomkins

My Team now would be

James Roby
Gareth Carvell
Ben Westwood
Earl Crabtree

I have little doubt that the poms will be pushing to have as many Aussies & Kiwis stopped from coming,....it's the only hope for them to have a chance to win it.

The trouble with English packs is their lack of speed,and has been for 50 years,they pick a pack of lumbering elephants expecting to bulldoze their way through the opposition,this doesn't work any more,take a look at the Aussie &Kiwi packs and you will notice that most of their forwards are quick enough to play in the backlines,

Australia will beat England by 25 points at least.
New Zealand will beat England by a similar margin

As for Australia v New Zealand????Would not put money on it just yet.

This excerpt was taken from an article written by an English journo.


Paul Wellens is the one you will probably think is the goal posts at some point. He moves about as fast as one! You'll see him in the background of Leeds tries, out of position, off the pace and out of his depth, even at this level.

I have followed RL for over50 years,and I have yet to see a poorer full back playing at international level,I saw him in the England v Australia debacle last November,and I felt embarrassed for him,...absolutely out of his class even in the English team, if he was over here I doubt whether he would get the job as a ball-boy.

i would..australia by 30+ against NZ and england will beat NZ too.......

the last time NZ brought such a inexperienced & depleted squad up here they got tanked 3-0 and france nearly beat them too...