He might not have any NRL experience but that's not to say he won't be good. I think every team has horror stories about signing an NRL who came with a good reputation but turned out to be rubbish, mostly because he was here to pick up a nice wage. Every club can also probably point out a NRL signing that didn't come with much of a reputation who turned out to be pretty good. Mitch Garbutt at prop for Leeds came in late 2015 with only a dozen NRL appearances under his belt aged 26 and many would question his ability based on that, but he played a key role in helping win the treble and even when we struggled in 2016 he still made over 100m in 18 of his 21 regular season appearances and was one of the best metre making props in the competition. This guy for Hudds could well be in the same mould. Just now at Leeds some are questioning why this new hooker we have was let go and assume it must mean there's something wrong with him......Parcell and Wakeman, like Garbutt might just be good players that never got a break in the NRL because coaches made poor decisions that they weren't good enough when they could've been. Also not being good enough for the NRL doesn't mean they won't thrive in a competition we all accept isn't as good in quality as the NRL,

No I haven't. I said he looks like a beast. I said his stats are impressive and some of the best from the league he is in.
What I did say was I'd like to see another quality signing. You have (again) made inferences and twisted that.

You are correct this time, so I apologise. We are going around in circles, I look forward in welcoming Shannon to SL, with these two I feel you now have a decent chance of 7th/8th.

Merry Christmas

I've watched this thread in the hope that you'd relent and show you were more clued up than your posts suggest - alas you seem not to be.

Tyrone may prove to be a dud signing for Hudds or could end up to be an inspired one, you can't tell for now - one thing is for sure he's as much a SL standard players as most of the Hull FC team. You seem to have a basic lack of understanding as to how teams and players are created or arrogance after a good season, I'm not sure which tbh.

There are two basic rules regarding players in my book.

First - Peter Fox once told me during one of his endless lectures (I used to drive him around a bit when he was at Fev) that there were three kinds of players. First is the player who has it right from the start and never loses it, there are not many of those but as you can imagine their Don and their Neil loomed large. Next were the players who never had it and never would, no names mentioned. Third and the one that covered the vast number of players were those who had it for a bit. Some were the burst on the scene youngsters then fade, others were those who had been around for a while then for whatever reason suddenly blossomed and finally those who bloomed at the very end.

In other words most players have a short shelf life and the art of a great coach is spotting when that's about to happen. John Kear is the best I know for this. It's important because even if a club could afford it no team should ever be staffed by only superstars, it wouldn't work. you need those players who peak and then move on to keep the balance right.

This brings me to the second point. McCarthy like most players will play his best in a team and for a coach he likes - Mr Stone may be that man in which case Tyrone has all the attributes to shine as do most players who get this far. My own club Trinity has a rich history of getting the best from these players. Some like Mike Forshaw and a few others have resurrected their careers with us and gone on to great things. However most have given us a few really great years then just faded away or made the wrong move and that applies to all clubs to varying degrees.

The difference between a truly great player and a good one is massive - the difference between a good club player and a work a day journeyman is small and can be summed up in three words - 'the right circumstances'.

Sums your knowledge up that sentence, you might want to re-read your post and see how wrong you are.

Ignoring your massive error, ask Rovers fans how good he was for them, he might be a workhorse, but would get no were near the Hull side, he isn't a top 8 SL player and certainly not a top 4 player.

Like it or not, McCarthy at 28, has no stood out in SL and has been no more than an average SL player, that's why he was released by Warrington and didn't stand out at Rovers (In a poor side, coached by Chester, who has done great at Wakey).

Let's see if he comes back the UK (Clue to your error there), who he signs for and how he does.

Although you use to taxi around Peter Fox, so you obviously know more about the ability of McCarthy than me, you should put that on your CV.

Classic that Dave how to make yourself look stupid by thinking your superior

Yep that would be the bulk of the Hull team and there coach who you lot wanted sacked the previous year - are you for real.

He's an average SL player now according to you so he's moved up from the Championship has he

Tyrone played at Wakefield for a bit in case you are unaware. He's a good squad player which is what most Hull players are - what made Hull work this season was because they were a team nothing to do with individual talent - work it out mate.

He is talking about you clown, you still have realised your mistake have you?

Aaah - but imagine how good Hull could have been had they signed Tyrone McCarthy. It's an inspired move by hudds IMO

I am confused have the Giants signed Tyrone Power or Rick Wakeman ?

Haven't made a mistake I'm purely talking about how you wrongly regard players - which is arrogant - the schematics of the thread concern me little.

Your over estimation of your team may well come crashing down around your ears this season as is the Hull way, then you can tell us all how individually brilliant and top eight your players are.

How utterly magnanimous of you.

You did ,this part of the thread was about Huddersfield signing Wakeman poor old Tyrone McCarthy was used as an example of an average player been a star player in the NSW comp you've jumped in thinking we're slagging him off thinking he's signed for Huddersfield when it was a Huddersfield fan comparing stats to an NRL players stats and a Hull fan pointing out you can't compare the two comps