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| Quote: pyeman "Theres also funding being put in by the developer and i've heard that we are getting some grant funding as well.'"
And what's the developer getting out of it? Private companies don't just pump millions into other private companies projects unless there is something in it for them! |
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| Quote: pyeman "The land is not toxic and has had no chemicals produced on it, but dont let facts get in the way of your drivel.'"
I know friends that have worked at Hicksons, they know what waste is buried in the area and so will the surveyors. Good look with the sale you'll need it! |
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| Quote: Fully "No, he didn't. deeHell said[If you possessed something approaching average intelligence you would understand that that DeeHell was refering to an annual figure. Your ludicrous £2m for 5 years shows that you are clueless. picking figures out of the air. You mention Chesterfield getting £1m for naming rights and omit to mention it is an eleven year deal and there are other aspects of the sponsorship deal. ![]()
Perceived negatives? So the opposition are just imagining their own concerns now are they? Don't talk silly. There are legitimate arguments that people have although not always written or conveyed in a way that is sensible and provokes a discussion and turns into trolling. You're referring to one or two Cas fans who give the rest a bad name. However, the majority of us - myself included - do want Wakefield to get their own stadium for the benefit of rugby league but can see the negatives too. People like SWC and I_A are always willing to answer and clarify their queries. I wish there were more like them to be honest.
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| Quote: deeHell "If it's really that much and such a money spinner why haven't debt ridden soccer clubs like Sheffield Wednesday done such a thing? Like I said 100-200K a year and that's been very generous. I can't see that been paid up for any more than 12 months in advance. In reality the money where talking about is not for the stadium construction it will be for day to day operating coasts. A few of them you'll have as well including the 2 million quid land loan from Wakey council that will after be paid back with interest!'"
I don't know why Sheffield Wednesday haven't pursued it, it is a question you would have to ask them. I think like Ceejames said, a bit of it is to do with heritage and alienating their fanbase. |
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| Quote: Fully "I don't know why Sheffield Wednesday haven't pursued it, it is a question you would have to ask them. I think like Ceejames said, a bit of it is to do with heritage and alienating their fanbase.'"
Because it's obviously not as cost effective as you think (or hope)! |
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| Quote: deeHell "Because it's obviously not as cost effective as you think (or hope)!'"
Like I said, you'd have to ask them! My opinion does not alter and nor does my figure. I suggest that all parties - including Ceejames - leave it at that because we're all not going to agree and I think people will get tired of reading this argument. Also, time to return to the original topic I think which is about actual stadium situations. |
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| Quote: Fully "Perceived negatives? So the opposition are just imagining their own concerns now are they? Don't talk silly. There are legitimate arguments that people have although not always written or conveyed in a way that is sensible and provokes a discussion and turns into trolling. You're referring to one or two Cas fans who give the rest a bad name. However, the majority of us - myself included - do want Wakefield to get their own stadium for the benefit of rugby league but can see the negatives too. People like SWC and I_A are always willing to answer and clarify their queries. I wish there were more like them to be honest.'"
I'm referring to you with your provocative trolling comments. When you come on the Wakefield board it's an alternative opinion when I do the same on the Cas board I'm a troll. You obviously think you have a higher level of intellect that your inflammatory comments can't possibly be classed as trolling. Me and you both know what there designed to do!  |
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| Quote: Fully "You know what annoys me? People who can't quote. And you say I'm lacking in intelligence? Also, people full of their own self-importance such as yourself. Grow up!
deeHell asked how much I thought it would raise? He didn't specify a time limit, he never said a year so therefore one would not assume it was specifically for a year. Nice backtrack, though. It must be nice trying to defend the indefensible. Knew you didn't have the balls to apologise for your mistake.
Go back and read my post, did I or did I not mention that Chesterfield's stadium was worth approximately £1m and conditioned on things such as gaining promotion? I think I did. Once again, you're making things up to suit your agenda. So I have to mention timeframes now but deeHell doesn't? Make your mind up! Doesn't make a difference whether it's £1m over 2 years or ten years - if they get that, that's a great achievement. I'm not making silly figures up, in fact, I know it's not silly. It represents the value I - and others - place on the stadium naming rights but like I said, we'll see who is right won't we? As for research, I know that sponsorships vary on many different factors such as division, location, chance of silverware, media coverage etc etc. It's why Leeds are very successful at gaining sponsorships.
Did I say EVERY press article? I thought I said every press article for an home game. If you read that, it would mean match reports in papers although I do note that some newspapers have a tendency to merge articles so I'll admit a slight error on that front. However, the point stands that the name still does find itself into many match reports and even news articles and publicity can be gained more than any other form of sponsorship in that way.
The last question was to see how you would answer. I wasn't actually seeking a response about circumstances and whether clubs have them. I was just enquiring if both were wanted and clubs had businesses interested in both, which one would sell for the higher figure and the obvious answer to me is stadium sponsorship. However, you're right about heritage but that refers to the older stadiums such as Hillsbrough, such as Highbury, Old Trafford etc. Newer stadiums such as the Emirates Stadium, b2net stadium, Reebok Stadium, DW Stadium, Galpharm Stadium all seem to push for stadium sponsorship.'"
What a load of gibberish rubbish have you actually read anything I've quoted?  |
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| Quote: deeHell "I'm referring to you with your provocative trolling comments. When you come on the Wakefield board it's an alternative opinion when I do the same on the Cas board I'm a troll. You obviously think you have a higher level of intellect that your inflammatory comments can't possibly be classed as trolling. Me and you both know what there designed to do! ![]()
When I come on the Wakefield board I offer comments for discussion and clearly offer the positives too. I've posted before that I recognise the arguments that Wakey fans put forward and I agree, however, I also note some of the aspects raised by the opposition. A lot of the Wakefield fans spend time discussing what the opposition are doing and saying.
On the other hand, when you come on the Cas forum all you do is post negative stuff with no real substance or evidence and like I mentioned in the post prior to this one, it's not the ideas that are the wrong, it's the way it is conveyed. I happen to agree with some points, for instance, that we've no real evidence about financials, delays and timeframes going out the window. Maybe you're just too blunt, I don't know. Or maybe I'm just too soft and need to harden up a little? I don't know. If you feel I'm too negative towards Wakefield that's your opinion. I can assure you that I do attempt to be impartial at every opportunity, though.
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| Quote: deeHell "What a load of gibberish rubbish have you actually read anything I've quoted? ![]()
That post was in reply to Ceejames.
And yes, I've read everything you've said and why I have replied to it.
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| Quote: Fully "Why would we need to move to NM? We've not sold our ground remember, so technically we could continue playing at The Jungle, rent free until such a time.'"
I don't want to add to your confusion here Fully as deehall and Ceejames seem to have you tied up in knots, but I thought Ben Bailey homes had bought your place for £6 million, if not then its all academic as you cannot name a ground that does not exist. |
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| Quote: Fully "You know what annoys me? People who can't quote.
[Really..how interesting. I am sure there will be a forum where you can discuss your quotation problem.]
deeHell asked how much I thought it would raise? He didn't specify a time limit, he never said a year so therefore one would not assume it was specifically for a year. Nice backtrack, though. It must be nice trying to defend the indefensible. Knew you didn't have the balls to apologise for your mistake.
[An intelligent person would understand the time limit for deeHell was a year. Anyone with even the smallest understanding of naming rights would realise that for a small RL stadium the £200K was for a year. You obviously lacked the intelligence and understanding required. Your nonsensical £400K / year shows that you are clueless.
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