Hence why I sent you comments about Wakefield.

According to those articles you had planning permission for a new stadium approved. Other than starting to build one, how are you closer? You are making improvements to a ground in 2021 you were asked to make improvements to in 2009. Is that progress?

We have a perfectly good ground thank you, albeit we don't own it but nor do several other clubs.

Quote: dboy "Fixed it for you. Meanwhile, we keep on playing at the grounds we own, whilst you pack up to play whole sections of the season away, so that your minor league soccer landlords can chuck a bit of grass down.'" Apart from an article quoting that you will be in a new ground by 2010, multiple articles stating approved planning permission for grounds that nobody has seen yet and an article advising you to improve your stadium by 2011 or you're out (which you didn't) then yes you're right there were no promises. Edit- apologies....it was 2012 your new ground supposedly in application 1. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... ders-rugby "Castleford, Salford and Wakefield Trinity were awarded licences on the basis they would be playing at a new stadium by 2012. " I take it all back, I'm happy as a RL fan to see games in a supposed top level sport played at a stadium that would be lucky to pass non league football regulations and in the case of your mates down the road has plants growing out the terracing.

Quote: dboy "Fixed it for you. Meanwhile, we keep on playing at the grounds we own, whilst you pack up to play whole sections of the season away, so that your minor league soccer landlords can chuck a bit of grass down.'" Apart from an article quoting that you will be in a new ground by 2010, multiple articles stating approved planning permission for grounds that nobody has seen yet and an article advising you to improve your stadium by 2011 or you're out (which you didn't) then yes you're right there were no promises. Edit- apologies....it was 2012 your new ground supposedly in application 1. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... ders-rugby "Castleford, Salford and Wakefield Trinity were awarded licences on the basis they would be playing at a new stadium by 2012. " I take it all back, I'm happy as a RL fan to see games in a supposed top level sport played at a stadium that would be lucky to pass non league football regulations and in the case of your mates down the road has plants growing out the terracing.

If you knew anything about the historic situation, you'd know that not at any single stage was the failure to deliver a new build down to the club itself.

If you knew anything about the current situation, you'd know that PP is in for a new East Stand and a redeveloped North Stand.

If you weren't a sanctimonious , you'd acknowledge that since joining SL, Wakefield have added new floodlights (which have actually just again been replaced with brand new ones), added a hospitality block, built a proper, stand alone toilet block for the away fans and covered 2 sections of terracing with a roof.

It might be crap - but don't say that they haven't made efforts.

I'm sure you will wish the club well with the PP that is due in the next few weeks - you being a through and through RL person, caring only for the game as a whole?

You're not happy??

You only have to come once or twice a year - we are in it all the time.

Anyway, you should like coming to BV - it should bring back nostalgia of when you had your own crumbling ground.

Now you are tenants of a soccer club.

Absolutely I wish them well because the sport won't grow or improve when supposed top level games are played at dumps.

We agree then.

But stop the nonsense idea that the club made promises, which they then wilfully and deliberately avoided.

Wakey have been the victim of circumstance after circumstance!

Did you know that one new build scheme, to be funded in partnership with Yorkshire County Cricket, was scuppered by Paul Caddick and Leeds City Council?

Or that one club official mysteriously disappeared to Amsterdam.

Or that on the eve of submitting fully funded development plans for BV were told by WMDC - "no don't, we are developing a sports village in Thornes Park"?

Or that a famous "Sir/WMDC", told the club not to bid on the purchase of BV, as they had it covered on the club's behalf, and they would only force the price up (Hello National Crime Agency).

It never ends...

We'll agree to disagree on whether promises were made, but I believe it did say in the secound round that things were out your control.

Either way....hopefully you now get some luck with it. You as a club need it and we as a sport it. Same goes for Cas.

No need to agree to disagree with me - just show me where I am wrong. Show me where either club made any kind of promise.

Talking about what they wanted/intended/hoped to achieve; their aspirations, is not promising XYZ will be done.

Feel free to say both clubs have failed to deliver an up to date facility for the last 20 years - you'd be right.

But this notion that they have somehow kept saying they'll build it tomorrow, without ever intending is nonsense and factually incorrect

It's fake news. A lie.

And yes - I'm sure Wakey will still need something to fall in their favour.

Cas's dreams seem abandoned (not by them, but by the controlling influences).

Oh I see my cocks bigger and better than your cock syndrome

Still doesn't stop us showing your @rse at Belle Vue does it 30-20, 32-16, 62-0, 36-28

Without seeing the exact application (only managed to find one from Leeds) we will never truly know will we

The arena next door is ours.