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Think London are a couple of injuries away from relegation. Leeds and HKR have the depth, London unfortunately IMO do not.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Ovavoo "Think London are a couple of injuries away from relegation. Leeds and HKR have the depth, London unfortunately IMO do not.'"

You won't get much argument from London fans on this point, but the squad seems to be pretty much playing as a Unit and we've coped pretty well so far........even the players who've been signed for other sides next year (or are being tapped up) seem to be giving that extra %.....
....confidence is key. At no stage have London been "hammered' this year....I think we've only shipped 40 points twice and I know we've scored 40 twice against Wakefield alone....we've been involved in some close games and seem to have a "never say die" attitude......and we are o a run of 4 wins and a 2 point loss in the last 5 games...we are the form team in the competition!

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Make no mistake London have done brilliantly. The contrast in effort from some previous teams sprinkled with very good Aussies is a lesson on how to build a team. If they stay up Danny Ward deserves a medal.

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I’m no Leeds fan, but if Leeds did go down and I don’t think they will, look at the bigger picture, Leeds attract 10,000 plus crowds swapped out for Toronto who will bring what to the game, take into account that superleague crowds are falling year on year, you already have around 4 or 5 clubs in superleague who bring nothing to game, my question is how long can superleague survive, let alone can Leeds survive ???

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Quote: Molsk111 "I’m no Leeds fan, but if Leeds did go down and I don’t think they will, look at the bigger picture, Leeds attract 10,000 plus crowds swapped out for Toronto who will bring what to the game, take into account that superleague crowds are falling year on year, you already have around 4 or 5 clubs in superleague who bring nothing to game, my question is how long can superleague survive, let alone can Leeds survive ???'"


Leeds only brought 280 fans to the saints game, it was embarrassing for a club with a massive demographic.

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Quote: Molsk111 "I’m no Leeds fan, but if Leeds did go down and I don’t think they will, look at the bigger picture, Leeds attract 10,000 plus crowds swapped out for Toronto who will bring what to the game, take into account that superleague crowds are falling year on year, you already have around 4 or 5 clubs in superleague who bring nothing to game, my question is how long can superleague survive, let alone can Leeds survive ???'"


If you believe their numbers, Toronto may be pulling crowds of 10,000, if/when they make it into SL.
Leeds, at the moment look to be in serious trouble on the field of play and their away support, this season has disappeared like an ice cube in a teapot.
They would usually bring 3000ish to Wakefield but on their last visit (a game that they won) there was less than half of that number.
Ironically, Trinity took more fans to Headingley, than Leeds managed to bring in the opposite direciton icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Molsk111 "I’m no Leeds fan, but if Leeds did go down and I don’t think they will, look at the bigger picture, Leeds attract 10,000 plus crowds swapped out for Toronto who will bring what to the game, take into account that superleague crowds are falling year on year, you already have around 4 or 5 clubs in superleague who bring nothing to game, my question is how long can superleague survive, let alone can Leeds survive ???'"

I am always confused when I see someone saying clubs bring nothing to the game, To me they bring a squad of 25 players which is all that is required for a game on the weekend. The majority of the funds for every club come from Sky.
What we do need is a greater number teams to play in a season I am getting sick of playing FC, three/four times a year.

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Quote: Beverley red "I am always confused when I see someone saying clubs bring nothing to the game, To me they bring a squad of 25 players which is all that is required for a game on the weekend. The majority of the funds for every club come from Sky.
What we do need is a greater number teams to play in a season I am getting sick of playing FC, three/four times a year.'"

Well said they should be at least 14 or 16 at a push then the game would be a lot better for it

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Quote: wrencat1873 "If you believe their numbers, Toronto may be pulling crowds of 10,000, if/when they make it into SL.
Leeds, at the moment look to be in serious trouble on the field of play and their away support, this season has disappeared like an ice cube in a teapot.
They would usually bring 3000ish to Wakefield but on their last visit (a game that they won) there was less than half of that number.
Ironically, Trinity took more fans to Headingley, than Leeds managed to bring in the opposite direciton
Is that the same night there was torrential rain in the lead up to the match and for the first half?

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Quote: bewildered "Is that the same night there was torrential rain in the lead up to the match and for the first half?'"


Yes but, getting wet is all part of supporting your team, especially away from home icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Molsk111 "I’m no Leeds fan, but if Leeds did go down and I don’t think they will, look at the bigger picture, Leeds attract 10,000 plus crowds swapped out for Toronto who will bring what to the game, take into account that superleague crowds are falling year on year, you already have around 4 or 5 clubs in superleague who bring nothing to game, my question is how long can superleague survive, let alone can Leeds survive ???'"


Toronto will bring more fans to us so we are quids in.

Leeds brought about 100 to us at the start of the season, then about 5 last week

"Best supported club in super league" according to their fans.

Toronto will bring far more than that should they replace Leeds

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Quote: bewildered "Is that the same night there was torrential rain in the lead up to the match and for the first half?'"


Fair weather supporters?

Supporting a winning team is easy, have Leeds supporters forgotten that when a team is stuggling that's when they really NEED the support? And as Rovers supporters, unfortunately we know.

If Leeds did get relegated I thought they'd bounce straight back and keep the support. I'm less convinced now.

As for declining spectators, Leeds' own are also falling year on year - not something Hetherington admits though.

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "Toronto will bring more fans to us so we are quids in.

Leeds brought about 100 to us at the start of the season, then about 5 last week

"Best supported club in super league" according to their fans.

Toronto will bring far more than that should they replace Leeds'"


Be the same as Catalans away support

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Quote: Gallanteer "Fair weather supporters?

Supporting a winning team is easy, have Leeds supporters forgotten that when a team is stuggling that's when they really NEED the support? And as Rovers supporters, unfortunately we know.

If Leeds did get relegated I thought they'd bounce straight back and keep the support. I'm less convinced now.

As for declining spectators, Leeds' own are also falling year on year - not something Hetherington admits though.'"


Leeds avg attendance at home was staying consistent around 15-15.5 for a decade before the stadium work in the last two seasons. Only next season if Leeds are still in SL can we properly judge if they’ve dropped with a fully open stadium to work with.

Has their away following decreased, yes but ANY club would see a noticeable difference in the same circumstances. If they didn’t and their away support was the same when the winning trophies as it was when they were near the bottom then it only actually show a failure by that club NOT to INCREASE crowds during successful periods. I don’t think any club brings as many away to Headingley as they did 10 years ago.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Ruune Rebellion ""Best supported club in super league" according to their fans.'"

Actually, best supported club according to the statistics. 12,638 as of this weekend just gone. Given they are at the bottom end if the table and playing like crap, i find it ironic that a fan of the top team with fewer fans feels the need to troll their fans...... Did mummy not give you enough cuddles?

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